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Debunking Christian Circular Arguments and Assumptions
Argument #
10: The Testimonials and Changed Lives Argument.
Evangelical
Christians
usually
declare that regardless of all their intellectual arguments to support
the
validity of the Bible and their faith, the best evidence lies in the
wonderful
inspiring testimonials of born again Christians. They are
proud to say
that Jesus changes lives and transforms them for the better to produce
good
fruit, and that’s the real evidence.
Now, that’s
all
fine and
dandy. I don’t dispute that there are many such
cases where people’s
lives were changed by the Christian faith for the better, given
fulfillment and
meaning, made happier, and given kinder hearts and improved morality,
etc. In fact, I was such a case myself, for when I was a
Christian fundamentalist,
my life was made more meaningful and gave me
a sense of strong inner purpose as well. I also agree that
there seems to
be some supernatural power behind these changed lives, answered
prayers, and
miracles.
However, those who
use this
argument almost NEVER consider, acknowledge, or take into account the
following
facts which are just as true as the premise of the argument.
1) First, just
because a religion or belief
system has changed people’s lives for the better
doesn’t mean that the
teachings or doctrines of the system must be true and
infallible. Nor do
they erase all other similar testimonials of all other religions and
belief
systems. Richard Carrier in his article Why I Don't Buy the
Resurrection
Story
put it well when he
stated:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/resurrection/
“Any
belief system that involves a radical break with past belief toward a
positive
acceptance of new hope or wisdom will have a powerful transformative
effect on
a person, whether their new belief is true or not. I myself
"converted" from an all-but-areligious childhood to Taoism, and its
effect on me was certainly profound. Am I so ignorant of the world that
I would
actually claim that "only the true Tao could have such a transforming
power in a person's life"? No. I am more honest than that, and more
aware
of the ways of the world. I was overcome by the genius and beauty of a
belief,
and the hope and wisdom it granted in a shining moment of revelation.
But after
long examination I found it was not the correct world view, that there
were
flaws only visible to careful study.”
2) Second, what
these Christians also NEVER
acknowledge or even realize is that there are also MANY people whose
lives were
changed for the better through other religions or systems of
belief. I
could EASILY bring up the SAME kind evidence of changed lives and
testimonials
from other belief systems, religions, pop psychology fads, self-help
groups,
Alcoholics Anonymous groups, New Age sects, Wiccans,
even from Atheists/Agnostics, etc. I have known practitioners
of
Buddhism, Islam, New Age, alternative non-organized spirituality, etc.
who can
testify that their lives had been changed for the better in many ways
as a
result of their beliefs/practices. Anyone who wants to find
such
testimonies can easily do so by walking into the worship buildings of
other
religions, seeking testimonies over the internet, reading about them
from books
in the library/bookstore, etc. However, just because those
testimonials
are true and sincere does not mean each of those belief systems and
practices
are right for everyone. The same goes for the Christian faith
too.
However, Christians
prefer not to factor this in. And if confronted with these
testimonials
of other religions, belief systems, and spiritual practices, their
response is
to claim that they mean nothing if not based on the Bible, and that
Satan could
be behind them because he can appear “as an angel of
light” and is the “father
of lies” according to the Bible (implying that even religions
that do good are
still inherently evil since they do not acknowledge Jesus as the only
way to
God).
The problem for them is that
claiming that Satan is
behind the testimonials of other religions/spiritual practices DOES NOT
erase
or invalidate them. They seem to think that claiming that
Satan is behind
it is some kind of a “magic eraser” that can delete
all contrary
evidence! Not only is it a total cop out, but it’s
insulting to others as
well. I would ask them how they would feel and how they would
like it if
I used the “Satan is behind it” explanation to
explain away their evidence of
Christian testimonials too?
3) Third, many
people throughout history have
sincerely tried the Christian faith, found it lacking or unfulfilling,
and then
left it too. Many of these deconverts
were sincere, believed in and loved Jesus with all their heart,
etc. Yet,
for one reason or another, the faith failed them. It either
didn’t live
up to its promise, was too closed-minded for their evolving minds which
sought
to broaden itself, didn’t make sense, had too many
contradictions/discrepancies
to continue rationalizing away, etc. Although there are no
exact
statistics for the number of people who convert and deconvert
from Christianity each year, I would say that the number of deconverts
is nearly as many as the converts. They are so common in fact
that I have
met them everywhere. This is to be expected though, because
in reality,
no single belief system or religion is right for everyone.
People are
different in many ways and on different levels of
intellectual/spiritual evolution.
Therefore, there are going to be some people are just not compatible
with the
Christian religion, for any number of reasons. In other
words, it’s not
for everyone, contrary to what Christians think. This is not
only true
for religion, but for career paths, organizations and social groups as
well. No one is compatible with everything, and no
group/organization/belief is suited for everyone.
That’s the reality.
Now, to be fair, this
should count as evidence against the validity of Christianity as
well.
Yet, the Evangelical Christians NEVER seem to count it as points
against them,
nor do they acknowledge this fact at all! Instead, if someone
has fallen
away, they are considered “backsliders” and
presumed to be lovers of sin and
pleasure, or else were deceived by false religion, secular passions, or
Satan. It’s never the fault of the Christian
religion of course.
It’s another classic case of blaming the victims (much like Amway
and
multi-level marketing companies blame those who fail the
“business system”
rather than the inherent flaws of the system).
Nevertheless, I am
not an
Atheist and so unlike them, my position is NOT that the change in
people’s
lives after committing to a religion is purely psychological or due to
delusion
or imagination. Not at all.
Such a
materialistic view does not fit all the evidence and accounts on the
matter. My view on this is much broader than that, and will
be expanded
on in the next section involving answered prayers and
miracles. I have
reasons for believing in metaphysical components of these phenomena,
because
physical conventional explanations are insufficient to account for the
total
body of evidence.
In any case, my
conclusion
about
this is that yes there is something supernatural going on here with the
Christian faith, evidenced by the testimonies of changed lives,
answered
prayers, miracles, etc. However, just because there is some
supernatural
force or power behind it, doesn’t mean that all other beliefs
and religions are
false, don’t lead to God, and are of Satan and lead to hell,
for there are
supernatural things going on in other religions and spiritual practices
as
well. That is what Fundamentalist Christians don’t
get.
Related
argument: All
non-Christians are empty and unhappy without Christ
A related argument
to the
above is that everyone without Christ is empty and unhappy deep down
inside. But the truth is, there are many non-Christians, both
secularists and people of other faiths, who are just as happy as
Christians if not more. And there are many Christians who are unhappy
and find their faith lacking and nonsensical, so much that many of them
end up deconverting. Obviously since this doesn't fit in with the
Christian paradigm, it is ignored through cognitive dissonance. One
time, I had a discussion with two Christian missionaries in Moscow who
brought up
this argument, which proved to be highly circular. It went
something like this:
Missionaries:
Everyone is empty deep down inside with Christ, for only he could fill
that
human emptiness that we all have.
Me:
But I know many people who are happy and fulfilled in other beliefs and
religions.
Missionaries:
They are only pretending to be happy and fulfilled. Without
Christ, there
is no true inner joy, peace, or fulfillment.
Me:
For example, the movie star Richard Gere
claims to be
happy in his Buddhist beliefs.
Missionaries:
Richard Gere
is not truly happy. He just tells
everyone that to keep up his image.
Me:
I also know and can name many former Christians who were unhappy or
empty in
their faith, and found fulfillment and meaning in other religions or
belief
systems, such as Buddhism, Taoism, Zen, Islam, Hinduism, Wiccan,
New Age, or even Atheism/Agnosticism. Many of them have
emailed me to
share their stories before, and my site has links to forums and support
group
sites dedicated to them.
Missionaries:
Then they were never true Christians to begin with. No one
who is truly
“born again” would fall away permanently.
They may have thought that they
were truly born again, but were mistaken. Nothing compares
with being
born again and having a relationship with Christ, which is completely
satisfying.
Me:
But many of these were honest devout Bible thumpers who gave their
whole lives
for their faith, evangelizing all along the way, just like you!
Missionaries:
Again, not all who claim to be Christians are. Having a mere
intellectual
belief in Jesus doesn’t make one born again. It
requires God to open up
their eyes, and their complete surrender to him. A lot of people
who think they are saved, are not. Remember
that Jesus said that on Judgment Day, many will come to him and claim
to be his
followers, but he will say that he never knew them, and throw them
aside.
The circular nature
of their
reasoning is apparent here. Those two missionaries
rationalized away
whatever didn’t fit in with their beliefs and
theology. Rather than
updating their beliefs to fit the facts, they twisted and adjusted the
facts
around their beliefs, sometimes even denying them
altogether. Essentially,
they ignored what proved them wrong. Do you really think an
honest belief
system would require a complete ignoring of evidence against it like
that? (See
the addendum of this book for my formal written response to their
arguments)
(For a similar
example of
Christian circular reasoning in dialogue format like the above, see
Robert
Ingersoll’s The
Talmagian Catechism on
Infidels.org.)
The problems with
this
argument are:
1) Even if I
concluded that my life is empty and
unsatisfying, it doesn’t mean that the Christian faith is the
answer that would
satisfy my life, especially since I have tried it for years
before. Though they would disagree, the fact is that no one
religion or belief
system
is right for everyone. I feel that due to my metaphysical
views, other
religions and spiritual practices are more suited for me. I
have too many
problems with Christian doctrine, theology, mentality, etc. In
fact, I
would even find more fulfillment
and meaning in
Buddhism than Christianity, as it makes far more sense and is far less
controversial.
2) Many
non-Christians do claim and do have
generally happy and fulfilling lives. Though Christians
don’t believe
them and deny it,
that does not make these
other
testimonials untrue or erase them.
3) Many former
Christians (some fervent too)
felt empty, incomplete, unhappy, and restless in their faith, thus deconverted
and went to other belief systems.
Christians often attempt to claim deconverts
were
never real Christians in the first place, but that is a total cop
out.
Every zealot and fanatic says the same about the deconverts
of their beliefs. It’s nothing new.
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