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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 07 Apr 2010, 19:40

You need to understand the theory and practice of homeopathy. It's not the same as making rat poison. Many people falsely believe that the stronger something is, the better it must be; the more effective it is. But the stronger something is, the more toxic and dangerous it is. The placebo effect also includes noticible effects. If you feel a powerful toxic drug doing something, the body believes it's working, but it's just poison. It's not really doing anything but poisoning the body. This is also the placebo effect.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 07 Apr 2010, 19:45

Nostradamus wrote:A Legal troubled group? This appears to just another misrepresentation by Kevin. Sigh.


NCAHF is a Stephen Barrett group. He's been debunked and a proven fraud.

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Oh, and where do you keep getting this 0-4 number? Oh, that's right .. it's a Nostradamus lie based on ND's unwillingness to tell the truth.!!!!
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 07 Apr 2010, 19:57

Do you understand the principle of vaccines? One of the most effective techniques developed by science for fighting disease. In essence, it teaches the body to defend itself by introducing a small amount of the disease. Homeopathy works on a similar principle. It teaches the body to rid itself of poisons and disease by diluting it.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 07 Apr 2010, 20:19

NCAHF is a Stephen Barrett group. He's been debunked and a proven fraud.

Your opinion and that's okay.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Nostradamus » 07 Apr 2010, 20:27

Do you understand the principle of vaccines? One of the most effective techniques developed by science for fighting disease. In essence, it teaches the body to defend itself by introducing a small amount of the disease. Homeopathy works on a similar principle. It teaches the body to rid itself of poisons and disease by diluting it.


These are very different issues. Vaccines are not small amounts of the disease. Vaccines are dead or weakened disease. Big difference. The material introduced to the body is not diluted, or potentized. Unlike homeopathic medicines vaccines actually work. Unlike homeopathic medicines vaccines can be curative and preventative. Smallpox is likely the best example of a disease that has been eradicated due to the use of vaccines.

So your question of whether I understand the principle of vaccines is yes. That is why I know that there is nothing in common with homeopathic practices.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby really? » 08 Apr 2010, 04:24

Kevin Kane wrote:Do you understand the principle of vaccines? One of the most effective techniques developed by science for fighting disease. In essence, it teaches the body to defend itself by introducing a small amount of the disease. Homeopathy works on a similar principle. It teaches the body to rid itself of poisons and disease by diluting it.


Instead of blathering on what you believe to be the therapeutic benefits of homeopathic meds why not give the listening audience a description of how they are made.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ciscop » 08 Apr 2010, 14:59

dude.. kk...
i guess you taked science lessons just as you take homeopathy ¨medicines¨

it was all dilluted and worthless

HOMEOPATHY IS WATER for dummies
thats it
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby rachelschmink » 22 Apr 2010, 12:10

Kevin Kane wrote:Do you understand the principle of vaccines? One of the most effective techniques developed by science for fighting disease. In essence, it teaches the body to defend itself by introducing a small amount of the disease. Homeopathy works on a similar principle. . . .


Not true. That's like saying, "In essence, you take an aspirin pill and it helps your headache. Homeopathy works on a similar principle; you take a pill . . ." Yeah, sure, the "similar principle" is that you take a pill. Not really any true similar principle at all, though.

And there's no similar principle underlying homeopathy and vaccines. The principle of vaccines obviously is based on the immune system; a set of very specific protein changes. Homeopathy is not. It's based on connecting to a patient's "vital essence".
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ProfWag » 22 Apr 2010, 20:40

rachelschmink wrote:
Kevin Kane wrote:Do you understand the principle of vaccines? One of the most effective techniques developed by science for fighting disease. In essence, it teaches the body to defend itself by introducing a small amount of the disease. Homeopathy works on a similar principle. . . .


Not true. That's like saying, "In essence, you take an aspirin pill and it helps your headache. Homeopathy works on a similar principle; you take a pill . . ." Yeah, sure, the "similar principle" is that you take a pill. Not really any true similar principle at all, though.

And there's no similar principle underlying homeopathy and vaccines. The principle of vaccines obviously is based on the immune system; a set of very specific protein changes. Homeopathy is not. It's based on connecting to a patient's "vital essence".

Thanks for pointing that out rachelschmink.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby rachelschmink » 23 Apr 2010, 05:20

ProfWag wrote:Thanks for pointing that out rachelschmink.


Sure - I think it's the logical fallacy of "trying to ride on someone else's coat-tails". I just invented that, if it doesn't already exist.

And to approach the homeopathy-vaccine thing from the other direction; Vaccine changes your body forever, but homeopathy seeks to treat something once, more like aspirin. So I'd say that "teaching" isn't a good description at all for what homeopathy tries to do. (Unless it just sucks at it, or our bodies are F students.)
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