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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 14 May 2014, 15:58

And let's look at it the other way, as pointed out in several episodes of 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy' pasted in above -- particularly 'The Guilty Men'.

LBJ had the most to lose if JFK continued to live and remained president. He would be taken off the next ticket as VP, and possibly investigated and jailed as a criminal. A lot of his business associates were looking at losing valuable rebates under JFK, and still others like KBR and weapons manufacturers would not make a killing if the Vietnam War did not proceed. If JFK was killed, on the other hand, LBJ would automatically be made president, he could perpetuate the Vietnam War, continue the handouts to oil producers, continue with his own crooked dealings and kickbacks, and so on. Apart from the incredible executive power he would gain, there was also an automatic reputational enhancement in the public mind with the office of President, even if not elected to the position, thus making any later criminal prosecution increasingly less likely.

It is known LBJ used Mac Wallace for several earlier killings. Mac Wallace was facing the death penalty for murder at one stage and was let off with a 5 year suspended sentence so he could go free immediately and do more hits for LBJ as and when required -- the only way he could be set free under those terms was if someone very important was manipulating the judge and judicial system in the South on his behalf -- the judge's ruling is bizarre, even by Southern standards, and easily viewable on the public record. Further, Mac Wallace's fingerprint was found on a box in the so-called 'sniper's nest', whereas there is no convincing evidence linking LHO to the rifle, except a clumsy single 'palm print' on the barrel which could easily have been planted later -- and was not found in a fingerprint check upfront, and it would be difficult to fire a rifle and run off and only leave a palm print and no other fingerprints. It is also highly unlikely LHO ran down several flights of stairs and appeared unflustered in a lunch room 90 seconds later, where witnesses attested he was standing all along -- and other people who were in the stairwell at the time reported no-one going past, especially not a maniac leaping down the stairs. Then there are the numerous problems of accurately aiming and discharging the single shot poor quality rifle with a misaligned scope in a few seconds -- this is a classic 'plant' rifle. Then there is the further problem of mismatched ammunition throughout the exercise, along with the removal of JFK's brain before the autopsy to disallow trajectory observations to be made. And provably altered photos of the wounds that occurred to Kennedy's skull, where anyone can see huge chunks of skull coming off in the Zapruder footage with Jackie Kennedy actually crawling over the boot of the presidential limousine to retrieve a piece of skull and try to somehow keep JFK alive -- remember this footage was suppressed for public viewing for many years, until its release in the early 70s which prompted a public outcry and a new investigation and the conclusion of a conspiracy to assassinate this time -- Dan Rather simply lied to the public in news reports about what he had seen when he was allowed a 'private viewing' of the footage closer to the time, a very suspicious occurrence in itself. Anyhow, the doctored photos show very little damage to the skull with a single small bullet entrance hole which we know from just viewing the Zapruder footage is not possible.

There is however little doubt LHO was a casual and irregular intelligence operative who believed he was being primed for something important, and who may have liked the intrigue and excitement of believing he was doing something important in intelligence as a career, disguised by being planted in several nothing jobs as a cover -- and all the jobs were through LBJ's southern cronies' businesses. The characters named by Jim Garrison all appear to be involved in the network -- David Ferrie, Guy Banister, Clay Shaw, Jack Ruby, even the CAP itself as a movement is suspicious given its founder, another LBJ crony who more than co-incidentally happened to own the TSBD building as well. Apparently Jack Ruby knew LHO as a child, for instance. David Ferrie was in the same CAP platoon as LHO. LHO was, apparently, asked on occasion to guard and escort other intelligence figures of interest such as Dr Mary Sherman and his to-be lover Judyth Very Baker.

At different times LHO was pro-Castro and anti-Castro. He associated with the mysterious ex-CIA Guy Banister who apparently was his 'handler', handing out various pro-Castro and anti-Castro pamphlets in the street as the situation required. He appears to have been sent to Russia by an American intel program that attempted to 'infiltrate' Russia with fake 'defectors' one at a time, whom the Russians always suspected and never trusted. This program was known to be active at the time he went. The fact he mysteriously spoke fluent Russian (according to his Russian wife) before he arrived in Russia suggests he had been primed in his earlier military service for this role. He was then conveniently tarred later as a 'Communist sympathiser' when using him as a patsy. As Jim Garrett noted, all LHO ever wanted to be was a 'good Marine' and clearly felt he served some useful and patriotic purpose acting as an intelligence irregular -- an impressionable and somewhat lost young man manipulated by discourses of patriotism and service and finally used up as a disposable pawn.
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby ProfWag » 20 May 2014, 08:00

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to device." Walter Scott

Syd, you have so many different things going on from LBJ to Bush to the Secret Service. You're pointing so many fingers that a millipede couldn't keep up. Often times the truth lies in the simplest of situations.
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 23 May 2014, 14:41

So from your hand to your armpit is not around 18"? The stock of a gun would be pretty noticeable due to its bulk, surely? Where does that witness say anything that suggests the item could have possibly been a broken down gun? Even a piece of crap like the Carcano?

Then there is no mention of the fact that they were wrapped in dept store paper and there was no grease or anything showing through as would happen with a well-oiled broken down gun -- which would be bulkier than the parcel the witness is talking about here to boot.

So I think any 'reasonable person' would consider that the parcel could not be a gun on the evidence.

Further, LHO's fingerprints by rights should have been all over said gun if it existed in his possession that day, when in fact a single palm print was found belatedly, several days later, which was apparently planted, possibly from his dead body. Remember this is a gun that an independent armourer said was rusted out, had a defective firing pin and a misaligned scope. More evidence that Profwag selectively chooses to ignore. There has been a flight of reason here, as 'One eye' Profwag strikes again.

As noted, the guy is live on video with his account in one of the episodes pasted above recounting again what it appeared to be.

Further, even if LHO did smuggle his crap gun into the TSBD under orders from his handlers, at any time, it certainly doesn't prove he even fired it or was on that floor at the time of the assassination. It's still quite possible a professional assassin or assassins using a mix of regular and frangible bullets actually took the shots. The aim being to frame LHO as a patsy throughout.
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 23 May 2014, 17:23

Now we come to the “single bullet theory,” otherwise known as the “magic bullet theory.” Three brass casings were found in the 6th floor “sniper’s nest,” and witnesses heard three shots, (did they?) so the official explanation had to revolve around three bullets. What nobody expected back in 1963, before camera phones, was that someone would actually have a video of the shooting. Turns out, this guy Zapruder was filming the motorcade just as the shots range out, so the official story had to match both the eyewitness accounts, and the Zapruder film. Without us drilling into the details that you can research yourself online very easily, the time in the car that both the President and Governor Connolly reacted physically to the gunfire was under six seconds.

Three aimed shots are not probable in a Carcano within six seconds, so the Warren Commission concluded that the damage done to the car occupants had to be from the impacts of only two bullets. The first shot, they reported, missed, though no damage to the car, or divot in the ground, was ever found according to the official record. Of the two remaining, quickly fired bullets, one for sure hit the President’s head. Truth can of course be stranger than fiction, and everyone from the Discovery Channel to debunker bloggers have tried to prove and disprove the possibility of the magic bullet for two generations now, and if you Google around, there are interesting theories on both sides of the issue. One interesting detail is that same Warren Commission also found that the third bullet, the headshot, disintegrated entirely after going through two layers of skull, which is significantly thinner than a rib. Not everyone on the Warren Commission agreed with the magic bullet theory. There were three dissenters on the Commission, but with all the flak that “conspiracy theorists” get about the shooting, when you boil it right down, the explanation itself was just a theory, and a far-flung one that that.

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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