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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

Postby caniswalensis » 18 Jun 2010, 04:16

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

Postby Indigo Child » 18 Jun 2010, 04:19

While, it is true that we only get sensations after coming into
contact with an empirical object, the part that experiences or
the sentience has to be there in the first place to receive those
sensations. If it is not present to the sensations, you will not feel
the sensations.

By the way is mental content only just one way? That Is, does builds up as we
experience empirical objects? Nope, there are some things which are
not empirical, but which we impose on the world. Morality, mathematics,
aesthetics, logic are not empirical objects either. There is no such thing
as "integers" and "beautiful" and "ugly" in the empirical world, it is something
we impose from our mind. In other words the mind has content which is prior
to experience of a physical object.

Hence, the mind is a real substance and has its own objective reality.
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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

Postby ProfWag » 18 Jun 2010, 04:21

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

Postby Indigo Child » 18 Jun 2010, 04:46

Dear Canis,

You are right that Richard wiseman does not have the last word on this. However, the reason why his statement was significant is that he admitted that as far as normal standards of science goes, remote viewing(a paranormal phenomena) is proven. The reason why this is significant is because a lot of paranormal phenomena has been proven by normal standards of science. However, there is still a hesitation in the scientific world to accept these things as facts. Now, regarding my point of pointing out how we can get rid of the "paranormal" as as a problematic thing by going back to basics and realising how wrong we were in the modern age to split up mind and matter and reducing the mind to just some epiphenomena of the physical. The reason science has turned up so many anomolies this century is because science was wrong about this assumption. Mind does indeed have a real, independent and objective existence.

You asked for definitions:

Mind: Mind is an umbrella term we use to describe our inner states of thoughts, feeling, desires, creativity, ideas, abstracts, states of consciousness.
Matter: Matter is what is objective and external to us, that we have a third-person access to and is the stuff that makes up our observable world. Both the 5 sense physical world and 6th sense inner world is part of our observable world. Remote viewing works in the 6th sense inner world which is matter in another dimension.

Fundamental matter: Fundamental matter is the ultimate stuff of which the world is made of. To say something is more fundamental is it to say that it is more basic than it is. For instance, atoms are more basic than molecules; energy is more basic than atoms; quantum waves are more basic than energy. Mind is the most basic of them all.
I hope this clarifies what I am arguing here. I just finished a new blog entry on this matter, you may want to check it out as well to clarify further: http://philospirit.blogspot.com/
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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Jun 2010, 03:14

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

Postby Scepcop » 19 Jun 2010, 05:24

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven

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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is prove

Postby victorzammit » 20 Jun 2010, 10:53

Psychologists and scientists do not professionally understand what technically constitutes admissible evidence amounting to proof. That is the work of a lawyer. Accoridngly Richard Wiseman who conceded that Remote Viewing is empirically and scientifically valid but would need more proof because the claim is 'phenomenal', is WRONG. It is the last refuge of closed minded skeptical scoundrels to be asking for more evidence when the Remote Viewers have more than proved their case. It is time these negatively entrenched psychologists and reductionist scientists bowed to the objective and repeatable evidence we have on the paranormal and the afterlife. When the plaintiff has proven his case especially by way of objective and repeatable evidence NOTHING ELSE IS REQUIRED for the plaintiff to do. Victor Zammit
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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is prove

Postby NinjaPuppy » 20 Jun 2010, 20:10

May I be the first to say... WELCOME!
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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is prove

Postby Scepcop » 20 Jun 2010, 20:50

Welcome finally Victor! Glad you had the time to finally post!

I hope to hear more about your seances and medium manifestations sometime :)
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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is prove

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