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Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is proven
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Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is provenTheres the extrordinary claims require extraordinary evidence gambit again
![]() Why don't scientists just admit they were wrong for splitting up mind and matter in the first place, and then refusing to allow mind to into their science. It is has always been blatantly obvious that the mind does have power over matter.
Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is provenLast edited by Indigo Child on 18 Jun 2010, 00:29, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is provenThere is little doubt to me that a person can make peace with themselves and I understand there is an inner knowledge of oneself that can be hard to find, and also a more physical outer knowledge that is more evident.
What I disagree with is that I don't believe a person can make a physical object move using nothing but the force of his/her mind. If you want to say that you can think yourself into doing physical things, then yes, I'll agree with that. I won't agree with any kind of statement that says if I think properly, I can make that soda can move across the table without anything touching it. That's where I'm coming from. If, however, you have evidence that a person can make a solid object move with nothing more than thought, please share your evidence.
Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is provenSo who on this earth decides "what is or isn't an EXTRAODINARY claim"? Does science have an offical "Extraordinary Claims Dept?
Awwww..... IC beat me to it!
Re: Skeptic Richard Wiseman concedes remote viewing is provenWhat you are talking about here is primary and secondary qualities.
The 5 senses give us the primary qualities of empirical objects. The mind give us the the secondary qualities as subjective sensations. So for instance the nose detects particle from the rose, and then this registers as the experience and sensation of smell. There are two different phenomena here one is the quantity of rose particles entering the nose, and the other is the quality of the sensation of the smell of rose. You cannot know anybodies sensation of the smell of the rose, you can only know that the same particles have entered their nose, but their sensation is private. Similarly, one can see an object which emits a frequency of light, which you see as red, but another blue. So the qualitative aspect of it which is mental is completely different to the quantitative aspect which is physical. You cannot see anybodies elses subjective sensations with your 5 senses. You can only know your own subjective sensations through your 6th sense. Therefore there is a 6th sense which gives us information about the inner mental world, which cannot be given by the 5 senses. Are you familiar with the famous thought experiment of Mary in a black and white room? Mary is born in a black and white room and has a teacher which teaches her all the knowledge of physics, biology, neuroscience. She has complete knowledge of the physical word. However, Mary does not know the colour "red" In other words there is another kind of knowledge that is not physical, but experential, and cannot be known by any physical knowledge. This experential inner dimension, which is our most intimate knowledge, is not a physical-stuff. We only know it through our 6th internal sense.
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