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Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ProfWag » 11 Feb 2010, 20:05

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby Kevin Kane » 11 Feb 2010, 20:32

What was the point of the Carson show advice? Uri was not allowed near the spoons, nor allowed to select his own. Possible fraud by Carson and Randi?

According to magicians, including ciscop, Uri is the better spoon bender.

"Uri bent a spoon for me. The first time he did, I thought there must be a trick. The second time I was stunned - completely, completely stunned and amazed. It just bent in my hand. I;ve never seen anything like it. It takes a lot to impress me. Uri Geller is for real and anyone who doesn't recognise that is either deluding himself, or he is a very sad person."
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 12 Feb 2010, 00:19

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 12 Feb 2010, 01:33

You skeptics keep calling it 'trickery'. How is magic considered 'trickery' when the word 'magic' is usually paired up with word 'trick'. Especially when referrencing magicians?

Granted, Uri Geller did take this over the top in his attempt for fame but it's not like showmen won't grab what they can to make their name a household word.

I don't see skeptics launching a debate on 'Reality TV' even if there is no reality in those shows. It's all schtick.
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ProfWag » 12 Feb 2010, 02:48

I consider magic tricks to me just that, magic tricks. When I think of "magic" alone, I often think of the warlock/Merlin types. "Trickery," IMO, is trying to fool someone without them know they are getting fooled--i.e. "Used card salesmen often use "trickery" to get us to buy their lemons.

And what do you mean by "debate" for a reality show? Do you think we skeptics should start a show debunking "Paranormal State?"
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 12 Feb 2010, 03:44

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby highflyertoo » 12 Feb 2010, 09:39

ciscop have you ever met Uri Geller? or are you jumping on Randi's band wagon to vent off steam at Uri.



News Flash... Uri is trying to ruin everyone's dessert spoon by making them inoperable. Is there no one to able to stop him?..... where's super hero ciscop?......
Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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Re: Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

Postby ciscop » 13 Feb 2010, 00:57

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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