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Reincarnation Or Survival In A Afterlife World Or Both?

Postby leo100 » 28 Jun 2009, 09:06

After looking at all the evidence for survival it looks like to me that reincarnation and survival after death in another reality both exists. I base this on the strong evidence for both views, and that the soul does need to learn physical pain, sorrow etc. This is a tough school we are all in until we die, it's really up to us if we choose to come back to this reality or not. The evidence from mediumship for example is very mixed on this issue of reincarnation, perhaps we reincarnate, perhaps not. This does appear to fit in what i said above that we choose to come back or not. The implication of course for the view that reincarnation is real are very big indeed.


Michael Tymn talks about the group-soul idea, including "Myers' " discussion of it in Cummins' in a earlier book The Road to Immortality. Referring to the mediumship of Maurice Barbanell, Tymn quotes the spirit entity Silver Birch as saying, "... there are what you call ‘group souls,' a single unity with facets which have spiritual relationships that incarnate at different times, at different places, for the purpose of equipping the larger soul for its work."

http://metgat.gaia.com/blog/2007/2/the_ ... ncarnation


Tymn goes on to say :

Silver Birch also likened the soul to an iceberg in which one small portion is manifesting and the greater portion not manifesting. He apparently was referring to what others have called the "Higher Self," the "Greater Self," or the "Oversoul" ...

However, he stressed that the individuality of the "facets" within the Group Soul is maintained.

I like to finish this post with a quote from a scientist in the journal of nervous and mental diseases

Dr Harold Lief wrote of Ian Stevenson: "Either he is making a colossal mistake, or he will be known as the Galileo of the twentieth century."
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Re: Reincarnation Or Survival In A Afterlife World Or Both?

Postby Eteponge » 29 Jun 2009, 04:04

The idea of "no reincarnation" would make sense if everyone lived to old age and got to experience everything they could out of life, but that just doesn't happen. Babies die, children die, adolescents die, etc. Many of them never really got to experience life as we do. A baby dies after being here a week, he hasn't learned jack that the physical has to offer.

There are some who claim that past-life-memories are just "channeled" information, the individual really wasn't reincarnated. There are serious problems with that. There is the issue with many cases of Reincarnation having the person recalling the time between lives, where they choose their next parents, and choose their next hardships, etc. And cases where the mother or father experience the apparition of the person from the previous life appearing before them, before their child is born, telling them he or she wants to be born to them, etc. There are many such cases.

Then there's that one case that Michael Prescott pointed out once, where a woman was pregnant with twins, both twins died in the womb, then shortly after, her cousin became pregnant with twins, and when the boys were young, they kept calling the other woman (who lost twins) their "real mother", and when their mother asked why, they said, "We had to get permission for that, switching tummies."

Now, as for survival after death, and even incarnation into other realities, I have no problem with that either. But, I believe it happens here too, as in the person coming back.
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Re: Reincarnation Or Survival In A Afterlife World Or Both?

Postby Scepcop » 29 Jun 2009, 12:39

What I don't get is, why is it that great mediums like George Anderson or Jonathan Edwards, don't say during their readings, "Oops, it looks like your loved one has reincarnated and left the spirit world, so I can't contact him/her anymore." Why are they always available to them?
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Re: Reincarnation Or Survival In A Afterlife World Or Both?

Postby Scepcop » 30 Jun 2009, 12:51

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Re: Reincarnation Or Survival In A Afterlife World Or Both?

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