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The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby Scepcop » 03 Feb 2010, 01:17

Most people are conformists and followers, not independent free thinkers. They were conditioned to believe that "authority = truth" and is therefore never to be questioned. In school, they were raised in a behavioral conditioning environment where following and doing what one was told led to reward and merit, while defiance and non-compliance led to punishment and ridicule. (Such a system's purpose is to condition the population to become efficient slaves and producers) In this system, they found purpose and meaning in aligning their interests with that of established interests. Hence anything that challenges orthodoxy makes them uncomfortable. They've developed a psychological block against it. That's what makes them tick.

In school, you are taught that "critical thinking" means to refute and ridicule anything that opposes the establishment or status quo, but never the status quo itself. A true skeptic can rise above that and apply skepticism and critical thought toward established orthodoxy, but a pseudo-skeptic cannot. Instead, the pseudo-skeptic follows the school system's form of "critical thinking", applying it only to those who oppose orthodoxy in defense of the status quo.

In that sense, they are in reality "establishment defenders" rather than true skeptics. That is why they NEVER challenge, criticize or scrutinize their government or any part of the establishment, including the pharmaceutical companies, CIA or FBI, even if logic, facts, evidence or moral cause dictates that they should.

To these establishment defenders, authority = truth, and as such is always blameless in their eyes. That is their religion, so hence, all their skills, talents and knowledge is used to serve their true God - orthodoxy establishment. In their view, establishment authority can do no wrong, even if they murder, traffick drugs, steal, lie, stage terrorist attacks, start wars by funding both sides, etc.

What this means is that these pseudo-skeptics or establishment defenders, which are commonly featured in the mainstream media, do not serve truth as their master. As such, they cannot see the truth or do what's right, but in fact, are even willing to lie and deceive to serve their establishment masters (there are so many documented cases of this). Thus they are not "free" in any sense of the word, nor honest, which is sad.

This is why not only are they closed minded against anything to do with paranormal phenomena, but are vehemently opposed to all claims of government conspiracies as well, no matter how well supported, for it offends their "true master" (which is not truth).

Examples of famous pseudo-skeptics and establishment defenders: (Check them all out and you will see that their actions fit the above description)

- James Randi and his JREF crowd
- Michael Shermer
- CSICOP and their crowd
- Penn and Teller and their "Bullshit" show (pun intended) which is an insult to one's intelligence
- The Mythbusters
- Phil Plait and his "Bad Astronomy" folks
“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby NinjaPuppy » 03 Feb 2010, 01:20

I can't stand the sheeple mentality.
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby ProfWag » 03 Feb 2010, 01:29

For the record, I totally disagree with your assessment. One of these days, when I have energy, I'll explain why.
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby NinjaPuppy » 03 Feb 2010, 04:26

Yes, but many skeptics throw the baby out with the bath water. Are not some things worthy of further thought and experimentation? Just because one guy couldn't find the answers doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby ciscop » 03 Feb 2010, 04:34

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby ciscop » 03 Feb 2010, 10:22

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby Scepcop » 28 Feb 2010, 02:08

Prof,
I've answered those silly points and provided examples many times in the past. Yet you refuse to listen to reason and reality. There is no logical reason to expect that if I gave you examples one more time, that anything would change. So why waste my time again?

You and Nostradamus (wherever he is) won't even admit that there's squibs in the WTC collapse, when many videos clearly show the squibs, which you can see on YouTube, and which I've posted many times. Yet you deny that they exist. Same with the WTC explosions. It's like you stand in front of a mountain and continue to deny that it exists. A reasonable person eventually gives up on you, as there's no point in arguing with a fool, lest he becomes one too.

Your points are just excuses. They do not support the facts or actions. Comparing facts to tooth fairies is a stupid non-sequitor and a cheap attempt to demean someone. No one here is arguing for the tooth fairy. You just make that up to ridicule others.

One more time: This speaks for itself.

Consider this: Have you ever seen Randi, Shermer or CSICOP ever criticize anything of the establishment, including crimes, murders, lies, conspiracies, evil plots, etc?

Nope. Never.

Consider the following documented facts:

Do they ever speak out against the senseless killings in the Iraq War for power and profit?

Nope.

Do they ever publicly declare that the US Navy was wrong to fake the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 1964 (which has now been uncovered) which resulted in the deaths of 60,000 Americans and millions of Vietnamese, making the war and their deaths a FRAUD?

Nope.

Are they outraged with the fact that the CIA has been involved in drug trafficking, which even some in the mainstream media have reported? Or the CIA assassinations of foreign leaders who refused to abide by US policy?

Nope.

Are they outraged that the EPA lied after 9/11 that the air was safe to breathe, which caused thousands of First Responders to develop cancer from the toxic air and slowly die?

Nope.

Are they outraged that upper levels of government have concocted secret plots to sacrifice innocent lives to stage terrorist activities and blame it on others to start wars, such as Operation Northwoods and Operation Dirty Trick? (google them for more info)

Nope.

Do they speak out against the thousands of people that die from pharmaceutical drugs every year?

Nope.

But will they go ballistic if ONE person allegedly dies from alternative treatment such as homeopathy?

You betcha!

Enough said. Point proven.

If I am wrong, you will show me articles from Randi or Shermer where they've criticized the above.

Of course no one will say "I support murder". DUH! But the fact that they can never condemn authority tells you that they are biased and have an allegiance, and are not objective free thinkers. My God. DUH!

Arguing with you is like arguing with a child.
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby Nostradamus » 28 Feb 2010, 11:57

Scimitars were not available - beware January 19, 2038 is upon us.
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Re: The True Masters of the Pseudo-Skeptics

Postby Nostradamus » 28 Feb 2010, 12:02

Scimitars were not available - beware January 19, 2038 is upon us.
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