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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Edx » 17 Jul 2010, 21:09

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby really? » 17 Jul 2010, 22:01

[quote="Edx"][/quote]

I've asked the same question of the Coalition here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1313
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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Scepcop » 19 Sep 2010, 04:09

This is an interesting documentary about how scientists that believe creationism could be possible are marginalized, blacklisted and ultimately silenced.

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (Super Trailer)



Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (Part 1 of 10)



It looks like the church dogma of the past has now been replaced by darwinistic dogma and you aren't allowed to question it.
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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Scepcop » 19 Sep 2010, 04:10

“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Edx » 19 Sep 2010, 07:07

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Craig Browning » 19 Sep 2010, 21:43

Randi certain don't believe in ID... but then I can't think of many INTELLIGENT PEOPLE that would. The physical record, and I'm not just talking about geology and anthropology but the FACT that the bible itself has been proven false 1001 times or more; a tome filled with plagiarism, outrageous contradictions as well as noted deletions and additions made by scribes (especially in the New Testament) for Political reasons more than anything else. Then we can top all of that off with the fact that the most read and quoted version of the book (King James) was organized and "complied" by a known gay pedophile (Yes, the King was a Queen... but maybe that's what this whole Randi connection is about???)

For anyone in modern times to believe that the earth is but a few thousand years old vs. the obvious millions... well, I think they need to get out more and have a life away from their "ministers"... give them the opportunity to actually apply FREE WILL in their lives. Most of them can't simply because they were programmed to believe certain things whilst in diapers.
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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Scepcop » 22 Sep 2010, 06:27

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Arouet » 22 Sep 2010, 08:54

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Craig Browning » 22 Sep 2010, 11:09

I have to side with the skeptics on this, especially when it comes to the creationist "need" to embrace a mythos that's not even exclusive to the bible and even if it were we need to ask ourselves which of the two separate creation tales in Genesis is the "true" or "valid" version of things... and yes, there are two different accounts of creation in there, so take a gander.

My biggest question centers on how to be "fair" when it comes to actually incorporating a Creationism curriculum that does not bias student perspective. In other words, how do we give students an even-handed and balanced overview of the various creation legends from around the world and the many different world cultures over the past 5,000 or so years? I'm certain that you'd agree that it wouldn't be right or just, to simply give them a semester of nothing but the Judeo-Christian perspective to things, right? :roll:
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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby really? » 22 Sep 2010, 21:07

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Craig Browning » 22 Sep 2010, 22:06

I knew that colleges offered such a course but in my mind the course shouldn't have the "R" word attached but be more item specific such as "Creation Mythos of the World' or some such and it should be a requisite course vs. elective... but then, I'm biased with reason.

In my decade as Mr. Mom the kids were exposed to a wide variety of world views, cultures, sub-cultures, etc. this includes encouragement to take the time to learn about the many religions or aspects thereof. The result has been one boy that sees himself as a Buddhist, one that went back to the Mormon church and a step-daughter that's wiccan... they each came to their own conclusions and choices and that's the point -- actual freedom of choice.

It goes back to my big question pertaining to the "Christian" idea; if they are the one true way, why are they so afraid of letting people learn about other philosophies, ideas, or asking them questions about things that "don't seem to fit"? Why do they "need" to use all these covert modes of brain washing youngster into thinking "their" way?

Sorry, but that's not just a cult-mind mentality, it's a very paranoid and corrupted cult-mind attitude that can (and has) proved rather dangerous to ALL.
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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

Postby Scepcop » 28 Sep 2010, 17:00

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Re: Why no CREATIONISM forum?

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