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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby Indigo Child » 02 Jul 2010, 20:08

And here is yet another case you cannot explain without using the ETH: http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case16.htm
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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby ProfWag » 02 Jul 2010, 21:19

Extraterestrial life is certainly one possibility. There are other possibilities as well. All you produce is evidence and it's very interesting. False radar readings were quite common in the 20th century. Meteors, ball lightning, and many other rational explanations could also be the culprit. To say the evidence is proof does not meet critical thinking. It is the easy way out.
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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby Indigo Child » 03 Jul 2010, 22:23

Again, you are failing to engage with the evidence. Not only did the radar report these UFO's, they later were able to
indeed see the UFO at the place the radar reported.

For somebody who harps on about critical thinking so much, you sure don't read anything carefully.
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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby ProfWag » 04 Jul 2010, 05:41

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby Indigo Child » 04 Jul 2010, 06:59

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby ProfWag » 04 Jul 2010, 18:54

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby Indigo Child » 04 Jul 2010, 20:05

This is where you show your pseudoskepticism.

Why should the simplest explanation be they lied about seeing it? The very fact that there there
are thousands of cases of pilot testimonies, thousands of cases of high ranking officials, including
US presidents, NASA officials, astronauts and the very fact that some governments around the world
have admitted to them existing clearly shows that this ain't no lie.

I seriously have to question the intelligence of somebody accusing all of these people of lying.

The fact is clear here, UFO's exist. They are are some kind of aircraft that do not belong to any known
human groups, and are capable of feats which go beyond our scientific capability.

No, they are not meteorites, because meteorites do not chase planes, change direction, and accelerate
to 9000mph. No, they are not balls of lightening, for exactly the same reasons. Morever a ball of lighening
would not show up on a radar.

Simplest explanation does not mean an explanation that is most comfortable with your worldview. It means an
explanation that best fits the data.

You don't work with data. You have shown yourself to consistenly reject data when you don't like it. You know yourself
accepting the data in this case will force you to accept the ETH.

I think you are in denial about the paranormal. Period. Its more psychological than it is rational. Something has happened
in your life that has disenchanted your view of reality, and evidence to the contrary, you resist..
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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby really? » 04 Jul 2010, 20:15

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby Indigo Child » 04 Jul 2010, 20:22

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby ProfWag » 05 Jul 2010, 01:09

An important statement concerning this UFO that was "surprisingly" left out of your case file:
"Visual observations consisted of one or two blue-white flashes, one of which, as viewed from the waist blister, appeared to pass under a wing of the aircraft. All of these may have been above the horizon, since the wingtip would appear well above the horizon as viewed from this position. The observers stated that the flashes "did not alter course whatsoever." These visual sightings were probably Geminid meteors; the wing operations officer stated: "Visual sightings are indecisive and of little confirmatory value."
http://www.ufodna.com/uf18/uf7/187055.htm

Also from this article:
"In summary, it seems most likely that the cause of this sighting can be assigned to radar AP, for which there is meteorological evidence, and meteors."
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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby Indigo Child » 06 Jul 2010, 01:30

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

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Re: What event in your life turned you into a Skeptic/Atheis

Postby ProfWag » 06 Jul 2010, 03:33

Simply put, the website you originally used as a source left out important information that confirmed meteoroligical effects (weather) and it also left out an important statement from the Ops Officer from the flight. Since it left out this important information, who knows what else the author of ufoevidence.org left out. The site obviously can't be trusted and is full of bias as I have plainly shown.
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