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Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

Postby Greatest I am » 01 Jun 2013, 02:08

Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

People who believe in the barbaric human blood sacrifice of the Triune Jesus/God must believe that the greatest force ever to exist decided that humans, lowly creations whom we are told are infinitely inferior to God, are somehow more important than God’s own life and that he would give it up for believers.

That is like a slave master dying in place of his slave. A rather silly notion to me.

Jesus preached that we should develop a humble character with little self-pride.

How is placing your own life above Triune Jesus/God’s showing a humble character as you think that he would die for you? That is taking self-pride to the maximum.

I think that those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence.

Yet Christians who think they are moral will believe that God would do such a despicable thing as having his son killed even as scriptures say that God prefers repentance to sacrifice and does not believe in asking or accepting a ransom.

Is thinking that to believe that God would die for you the epitome of an inflated ego?

If not, what could possibly inflate an ego more than that?

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 01 Jun 2013, 14:14

I don't think there's a lot of real gold leaf in the Vatican.

They had to do a lot of finagling in the 1930s to prevent themselves becoming a mendicant state by investing in gold bullion, London property and so on.

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2 ... -finances/

and this more recent take from The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ja ... CMP=twt_gu

Of course, they wielded a lot of power and influence in Europe in the period from the decline of the Roman empire until the last century or so. The pope wields the most power in South America and the Philippines these days...

You need to look to anthropology and Desmond Morris for a study of status symbols ;)

Also, they are selling and may need to continue to sell substantial amounts of their property holdings around the world to raise money for compensation for all the sexual abuse the clergy has been dealing out. Oops! That's one reason there was a Reformation.
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Re: Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 01 Jun 2013, 14:16

Re the OP, see also myths from Egypt and Greece concerning deities who died and were resurrected. Seems to be a recurring archetypal theme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_god

Further food for thought:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammuz_(deity)

Tammuz, statue by Imre Schrammel, National Theatre of Miskolc, Hungary.Tammuz (Syriac: ܬܡܘܙ; Hebrew: תַּמּוּז, Transliterated Hebrew: Tammuz, Tiberian Hebrew: Tammûz; Arabic: تمّوز‎ Tammūz; Akkadian: Duʾzu, Dūzu; Sumerian: Dumuzid (DUMU.ZI(D), ) was the name of a Sumerian god of food and vegetation, also worshiped in the later Mesopotamian states of Akkad, Assyria and Babylonia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adonis

Notably, the early Christian church was largely a Greek-based church. Whether they borrowed from local legends to make their story more convincing to gain converts when writing the gospels is a moot point.
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