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Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Scepcop » 07 Nov 2009, 03:12

Skeptics,
What are your qualifications in aviation and NORAD procedures? Do you know more about it than a former NORAD tactical director?

http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Turbine engineering specialist. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Private pilot.

* Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


* Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see General Stubblebine, Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


* Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The government conspiracy theory does not hold up to scrutiny. As a professional with over 30 years experience working with gas turbines (jet engines) and fuels - kerosene (jet fuel) does not burn in any open flame hot enough to effect steel - well under 1000 deg F. Also bogus are the explanations regarding why no planes were intercepted. SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is they are always, always intercepted if they stray off course and/or turn off the transponder like these flights all did. No command decision needed. Has our government ever been untruthful to us?" http://www.ae911truth.org
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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Nostradamus » 07 Nov 2009, 11:13

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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Nostradamus » 07 Nov 2009, 11:23

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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Nostradamus » 07 Nov 2009, 11:25

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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Scepcop » 08 Nov 2009, 23:20

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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Nostradamus » 08 Nov 2009, 23:33

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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby Nostradamus » 08 Nov 2009, 23:35

NORAD before 9/11 only had 14 aircraft for intercepts in the entire US.

I've already stated that. Give an example of an intercept after 9/11.
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Re: Skeptics, are you more qualified than a NORAD tactical dir?

Postby ProfWag » 08 Nov 2009, 23:41

Yes Scepcop, we are. I posted the below under the MIT/Jeff King thread which went unanswered by you so I'm confident that you will not respond to this one as well, but here it is again for people who actually like to do research about a topic:

I would like to point out how tricky you conspiracy theorists are in hoping that people don't actually read what they are saying. Normally, I would have missed this as well, but my uncle (I've mentioned him before in his more current role with the FAA) actually WAS the former Deputy Commander of Operations at NORAD, holding the rank of Brig Gen (bio avail upon request through PM). When I see NORAD, my interest is peaked which is why I looked at this a little closer.
Anyway, Scepcop says "here is an example from a former tactical director of NORAD. That sounds quite impressive, until you read on. First, he was a Captain. Anyone that knows anything about military rank knows that a Captain is an almost automatic promotion after 4 years of service and they have very little hands on experience. Then, as you read on, it says he was a Tac Dir. for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense. Unfortunately, I'm no longer impressed with his credentials...
Just wanted to make that clear.

I would also like to emphasize that anyone with inside knowledge of NORAD is based out of Colorado Springs, not Milwaukee.
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