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ProfWag, listen to this AF Pilot decorated with 17 medals!

Postby Scepcop » 27 Aug 2009, 04:25

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Re: ProfWag, listen to this AF Pilot decorated with 17 medals!

Postby ProfWag » 27 Aug 2009, 04:49

It is likely that hundreds of people directly saw flight 77 hit the Pentagon. Dozens were interviewed by numerous news outlets: Witness List 1 – List 2 – List 3 – List 4 – List 5 – More

Pentagon witness spreadsheet (Excel file)

Many witnesses were in their cars, in a traffic jam directly in front of the Pentagon. Most of those people drove away and were not interviewed. Below is a summary of the accounts quoted in the lists and spreadsheet summary above. These are mostly accounts that appeared in mainstream media reports. Many more people witnessed the attack.

From the lists above, 136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and

104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.

7 said it was a Boeing 757.

8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.

42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.


2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

3 took photographs of the aftermath.

Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."

And of course,

0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.
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Re: ProfWag, listen to this AF Pilot decorated with 17 medals!

Postby Scepcop » 27 Aug 2009, 05:01

Where is your source for that? It never mentioned that many also said they saw a missile and others saw a military plane. So your source must be skewed.

You didn't answer my question about whether your qualifications can compare with the AF pilot with 17 medals or not. You didn't address that.

He knows a hell of a lot more than you about aviation. You agree?
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Re: ProfWag, listen to this AF Pilot decorated with 17 medals!

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Re: ProfWag, listen to this AF Pilot decorated with 17 medals!

Postby Scepcop » 27 Aug 2009, 11:10

Here's a more complete list that includes statements that go against the official version (which you take to be the Gospel). See the parts in red.

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/witnesses.html
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Re: ProfWag, listen to this AF Pilot decorated with 17 medals!

Postby Scepcop » 27 Aug 2009, 12:06

This relative of yours in the air force, can you cite his full name and provide his statement in his own words, concerning Flight 77 and the Pentagon? How much time has he researched this? And does he know about the extreme maneuvers of Flight 77 and how difficult they were?

Show him the quotes above by the air force pilot with 17 medals, and get his response, and post it here.

Otherwise, it's just pure hearsay.

Question for you: If Flight 77's path was easy and believable, why are so many expert pilots saying it was impossible? Can you answer that? You admit that they know more about aviation than you. So why don't you believe them? Why would they say something that wasn't true within their field of expertise?
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