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Richard Gage and the AIA

Postby ProfWag » 05 Oct 2012, 00:20

Misha mentioned in a post a while concerning the potentially truthful statement that if 1,700 architects and engineers have signed Gage's petition, we should take him seriously. I wanted to do some additional research into just what the other architects and engineers felt about the building collapses and their thoughts on Gage's "mission."

I found this article from Gage's proud affiliation of the American Institute of Architects (AIA). I believe it is an important article on what the general feelings are about 9/11 from architects themselves:

http://www.architectmagazine.com/archit ... ory_1.aspx
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Postby SydneyPSIder » 05 Oct 2012, 08:39

Something different, ProfWag goes the smear and finds a smearing article written by someone called 'Jeremy Stahl', which contains mainly appeals to authority (all of which have been shown to be compromised) as the overriding method of reasoning. Hence all the reasoning is circular. Richard Gage is a qualified architect and a member of the AIA. Many other members of the AE911 group are also architects and members of the AIA. He has used their logo on his site, and is entitled to use their logo on his correspondence. I don't think he is trying to drag the AIA along for the ride. Nothing to see here.
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Re: Richard Gage and the AIA

Postby ProfWag » 05 Oct 2012, 17:56

It is obvious from the article that Gage's motives are questionable and that he does not have the support of the vast majority of the members of the AIA. That is a very relevant point when researching the credibility of of someone making statements, either for or against your viewpoint.
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Re: Richard Gage and the AIA

Postby SydneyPSIder » 05 Oct 2012, 22:10

How do we know what most American architects, or the ones in the AIA, really believe? Did anyone ask them all? There's a difference between believing a collapse was unlikely on the physics and being too shit-scared to rock the boat in case they come after you next, and believing the official story. Architects have to work for a living too, and their next customer could be some compromised mob-run outfit, who knows. We don't know what the majority of architects think, because we haven't asked them. I DO know that an architect friend in Sydney was working with an architecture firm on 9/11 where one of the other architects heard the news and said 'that's not possible, I've studied that building' and took out books and illustrations and said it couldn't have possibly collapsed in that way without extreme assistance.

The AIA 'concludes' what is financially best for its members, including getting future lucrative government contracts. They're not going to rock the boat.
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Re: Richard Gage and the AIA

Postby ProfWag » 06 Oct 2012, 21:56

Getting back to basics, Mr. Gage is not an expert on high-rise architecture. The tallest building he ever designed was 3 stories. Does anyone have a reference from a practicing architect who is an expert in skyscrapers who supports his theory? I couldn't find one. I researched a few names who have signed his petition and I couldn't find anyone associated with high-rises. In fact, I found one that was only recently granted membership, one that designed landscaping, and one house designer. Are these the people you want to put your money on as taking their views on the WTC collapses seriously? I'm sure they are great at their job, but I have to question their knowledge of 100 story buildings and airplanes.
In addition to the AIA, I do know the following organizations also do not support Mr. Gage: CTBUH, RIBA, KBF (NY's largest architectural firm), ASCE, and the SEAoNY. I'm sure there are more...
Note for clarity, the referenced acronyms spelled out:
CTBUH - Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat
RIBA - Royal Institute of British Architects
ASCE - American Society of Civil Engineers
SEAoNY - Structural Engineer Association of New York

Now, you can rely on the credibility of Mr. Gage and claim that the other organizations are "afraid to come forwward" or you can rely on the credibility of the above organizations. Take your pick. I'll pick the organizations listed.
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Postby SydneyPSIder » 06 Oct 2012, 22:51

There's quite a few high rise architects on Richard Gage's doco material who question it, yes. You would have to view the material to consider what they're saying, something any self-respecing PS artist would be loathe to do, of course.
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