Discuss Conspiracies and Cover Ups - e.g. 9/11 Truth, JFK Assassination, New World Order, Roswell, Moon Hoax, Secret Societies, etc. whatever conspiracy floats your boat.
by Scepcop » 04 Apr 2010, 14:26
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by Nostradamus » 04 Apr 2010, 21:05
Scimitars were not available - beware January 19, 2038 is upon us.
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by NucleicAcid » 05 Apr 2010, 02:39
NORAD's purpose from inception was basically to protect US airspace, especially against long-range Soviet nuclear bomber aircraft. So, at that point in time, they would have been ready to scramble within a moment's notice. I don't doubt that during that period of time, they would have been able to get aircraft in the air within 5 minutes (if they weren't already doing rounds), and of course they would have broken the sound barrier over public soil (that's easy enough to circumvent). However, since the threat of Soviet bombers has dropped significantly, it is most likely that the overall response time would have decayed since then. Also, because the idea of hijacking planes and using them as missiles was a rare idea at best (this is pre-911, have to be careful not to fall into hindsight bias), NORAD wouldn't really have much reason to look at commercial aircraft. They'd be looking mostly for anomalous aircraft inbound from offshore. Therefore, they would have had to have waited AT LEAST until they got the notification from the FAA to even begin doing anything. Despite all the drilling, people act totally different during a drill than they do in a real-life situation.
In short, unless the military was on high alert/scramble to begin with, AND got immediate notification from the FAA as soon as the flights deviated off course, it is highly unlikely they would have intercepted the airliners.
The government has a general trend of this: It is silly to suspect malice, when mere ignorance will suffice. I think it is more than likely that the pieces weren't in place for one reason or another, and the system was not ready to handle an intercept. It's possible to say that the entire 911 incident was the result of negligence and miscommunication, passively or perhaps, PERHAPS actively. Conversely, in order for the US to pull off an entirely inside job, they would have had to have flawless planning and communication, and have the entire thing go off without a hitch. I don't give ANY single or group of humans, let alone the US government, the possibility of having something go off without any hitches.
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by ProfWag » 05 Apr 2010, 03:24
SCEPCOP, I have told you before, and I will tell you again. I have a family member who was the #2 person in charge of NORAD (Air Force General) as well as a high-level employee of the FAA after that. (I can send you a link to his bio if you insist.) He told me personally that nothing in the conspiracy theories dealing with those planes is true. NOTHING. That includes them being able to make those maneuvers into the Pentagon as well as alluding fighter jets. Would you freakin' listen to me for a change? Please?!?!?!?! My source is credible and relevant. Jeezus H Kriste, give it up! He is NOT an armchair observer which is exactly what that "Tactical Director" is. He was a simple Captain and a nobody who worked in Milwaukee. GIVE US A FREAKING BREAK SCEPCOP!!!!!!!!
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by ciscop » 05 Apr 2010, 06:08
yes.. winston.. you got us with that post..
911 was an inside job we didnt go to the moon and bigfoot sleeps in your backyard
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by NucleicAcid » 05 Apr 2010, 11:40
Woah, that's some pretty intense family connections. Now we just need to find someone who is family with someone that landed on the moon, and we're set. ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif) (we = people that actually believe we landed on the moon, because duh)
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