Was Randi Wrong about Uri Geller?

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[Woodguard]

If Uri is a total fake what about all the lab tests. Look at the YouTube video Scepcop posted early.
Or do you hold to the idea like Randi, that a trained Scientist cannot design an experiment properly.
One yes, but several.

And just a side note, I seem to be putting Randi in a bad light. I like Randi and have respected for his work, not all of it.
But we need people like him, but just not so lock in his ways.


Woodguard from Canada.

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yes
several scientists can be fooled by a skilled magician such as geller
those scientists arent trained in sleight of hand nor they did controls therefore they were playing in uri geller´s field of expertise

i am not saying those scientists were stupid, im saying they acted as lay person and spectators to uri gellers tricks
just like any other guy will see a magic show and dont know how is it done, that´s how the scientists saw geller

and it has been proved before scientists (and parapsychologist mostly) are easy to trick when they have a bias towards believing in PSI
we have known that since the alpha project commanded by randi, where 2 magicians fooled scientists for over 2 years.
so yes.. SCIENTISTS THAT ARENT TRAINED IN SLEIGHT OF HAND or USE CONTROLS AT ALL.. are like shooting ducks for a scam artists as geller.

[Woodguard]

Can you real say that all the scientists that tested Uri early in life are 100% wrong? Not one knew how to do his job.

You cannot say this without looking at the data and reviewing each test and protocol.

I think your giving Uri too much credit as a magician, he sloppy and not very good. Just look at the videos.

[ProfWag]

Uri actually was a good magician 40 years ago. Ask any magician, (myself included,) and they will tell you that it is much, much harder to fool children than adults. I hated doing kid's shows as they could always point out what I was doing. The more educated one becomes, the less obvious an illusion is to that person.
When Uri was on Phenomenon in the US a couple years ago, he did a simple math trick, but he has a good stage presence and a look about him that helps his cause.
I can't speak on all things he has done, but I personally have never seen him do anything paranormal.

[Kevin Kane]

It actually should be pointed out .. again and again .. that the Uri Stanford tests were never debunked by any skeptics. And the skeptic theories to explain how Uri managed to do what he did at SRI are not just unproven theories .. but improbable and ridiculous theories. And yet, skeptics keep making these assertions without the slightest bit of proof or evidence to support their wild claims. According to skeptic theories, Uri would have to be Plastic Man ... peeking thru keyholes, hiding materials in floor cracks, making hypnotic suggestions, and other silliness, all without being caught on film, all at the spur of the moment without any preparation or foreknowledge.

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[NinjaPuppy]

I saw Uri on TV the other night. He obviously has a plastic surgeon who can do magic. Uri looks fantastic, considering his age.

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