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Was Ancient History a hoax invented during the Renaissance?

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Was Ancient History a hoax invented during the Renaissance?

Postby Scepcop » 13 Dec 2010, 23:18

Have any of you ever heard of Anatoly Fomenko? He's a brilliant Russian mathematician that stirred up controversy in historian academia by claiming that the ancient history of Europe and Russia was a fiction and hoax invented and crafted during the Renaissance of the 1600's. His theory claims that recorded history actually began in 900 AD, and that many of the events in ancient history occurred after 900 AD, including the Roman Empire and the life of Jesus. So he has created a new Chronology of history that differs from the traditional one.

It sounds crazy, but the greatest chess champion in the world, Gary Kasparov, agrees with much of his theory. But of course, just because one is a great chess player or mathematician does not mean one is also a great historian.

Fomenko has written volumes of scholarly books about it. You can find them on Amazon.com. Here are some promo videos about Fomenko's theory and books.







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Has history been tampered with? The documented history of human civilization is supposed to reach several millennia back into the past.

And yet if we consider the rate at which civilization is supposed to have progressed, we encounter periods of obscurity and informational vacuum following the alleged decline of every ancient empire, and then everything starts anew. Inventions are presumed lost for centuries, then re-invented by people whose names bear suspicious semblance to those of the ancient inventors. Just how true all of this is? Could history as we know it really be a collation of several chronicles relating to one and the same period of time?

Apparently, this is what the Russian mathematician Anatoly Fomenko claims. He is the author of the first volume in a series of seven that came out in English recently, and generated incredible controversy amongst professional historians worldwide. Many are trying to put the author into one league with numerous paranoid conspiracy theorists and mad inventors - however, all of his work conforms to the highest academic standards and is backed by solid scientific facts; furthermore, some of the most lucid minds of our time support many of the theories put forward by the authors. Garry Kasparov, the world chess champion, says the following in his preface to volume 1:

"Let us consider the factor of a mass character that I shall be referring to as psychophysical. Documented history tells us of the insatiable need of human beings to make discoveries. The vector of technological progress is a strictly vertical one. Every ten years something happens: discoveries, sea voyages, explosions... Everything keeps on changing, we see constant evolution - from Columbus to the landing on the Moon, from crossbows to nuclear bombs. Forwards and upwards. However, the traditional ancient history tells us of periods when humanity apparently remained dormant for centuries - "ancient" Egypt, the mediaeval "Dark Ages" - whole epochs of utter stasis in human thinking. It appears that the inhabitants of ancient Egypt and Rome had a different genetic code, and couldn't be bothered about anything at all, so they froze in their development, the result being a total lack of innovative activity. At the same time, there had been prosperous ancient empires where those among homo sapiens who possessed penchants for arts and sciences could get plenty of opportunities for growth and development. But, alas and alack, all of the prosperous "ancient" empires had ceased their development at some point."

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Has history been tampered with? Did events and eras such as the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Roman Empire , the Dark Ages, and the Renaissance, actually occur within a very different chronology from what we've been told? Yes, they certainly did! The history of humankind is both drastically shorter and dramatically different than generally presumed.
Why is it so? On one hand, it was usual custom to justify the claims to title and land by age and ancestry, and on the other the court historians knew only too well how to please their masters. The so called universal classic world history is a pack of intricate lies for all events prior to the 16th century. It's likely that nobody told you before, but there is not a single piece of firm written evidence or artefact that is reliably and independently dated prior to the 11th century.
Naturally, after what you've learned in school and university, you will not easily believe that the classical history of ancient Rome, Greece, Asia, Egypt, China, Japan, India, etc., is manifestly false.

You will point accusing finger to the pyramids in Egypt, to the Coliseum in Rome and Great Wall of China etc., and claim, aren't they really ancient, thousands of years ancient? Well, there is no valid scientific proof that they are older than 1000 years!

The oldest original written document that can be reliably dated belongs to the 11th century!

New research asserts that Homo sapiens invented writing (including hieroglyphics) only 1000 years ago. Once invented, writing skills were immediately and irreversibly put to the use of ruling powers and science.

The consensual chronology we live with was essentially crafted in the 16th century by Jesuits.

Early in life, we learn by heart the names and deeds of brave warriors, wise philosophers, fabulous pharaohs, cunning high priests and greedy scribes. We learn of gigantic pyramids and sinister castles, kings and queens, dukes and barons, powerful heroes and beautiful ladies, emaciated saints and low-life traitors. Dr debunks not merely the odd pillar, but the total, entire bastion of historical dating, proposing a 700 to 1000 year fictitious "add-on" section between 400 AD and 1100 AD (or larger) & argues that the conventional chronology sequence of almost EVERYTHING is erroneous.
Even if partially true this would be scary stuff.
Forget forbidden archeology which is for kindergarten....
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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

Postby Arouet » 13 Dec 2010, 23:51

Scepcop, what do you think about it?
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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

Postby caniswalensis » 14 Dec 2010, 00:18

Yes, everything is a hoax. All of it.

history
911
the moon landings
western medicine
baby ducklings
Walmart
Shields & Yarnell
Louis Pasteur
continental drift
continents
the sun
David Icke
John Wayne
magnets
ice
hippies
hot & sour soup
jet planes
Jefferson Airplane
Atlantis the lost continent
Altantis Resorts
Austria
America's Got Talent
peanut butter
the great wall of china
computers
Rush Limbaugh
Indian burns
comfy slippers
the ocean
band-aids
permanent markers
light switches
people that say "ah-ha"
cats
rhomboids
etc.

....all hoaxes!
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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

Postby NinjaPuppy » 14 Dec 2010, 00:43

But I LOVE permanant markers. They can't be a hoax because they smell soooooo good. :lol:
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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

Postby Arouet » 14 Dec 2010, 02:57

I kinda wish permanent markers didn't exist. Given how my kids always seem to find them no matter where we put them.

I can confirm, they are indeed permanent (until I paint over it I guess!)
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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

Postby Scepcop » 14 Dec 2010, 15:39

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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

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Re: Could history before the 16th Century be a big hoax?

Postby Scepcop » 14 Dec 2010, 16:55

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Re: Could all of history be a hoax? (videos)

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Re: Could history before the 16th Century be a big hoax?

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Re: Could history before the 16th Century be a big hoax?

Postby Craig Browning » 16 Dec 2010, 13:43

Ok... where did my post go on this thread? :?

I know I made a rather lengthy post... the first one on this subject, in fact.
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