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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby Arouet » 11 Jan 2011, 11:24

G. ADAM wrote:The procedure is DEAD SIMPLE, we've done it numerous times in other forums.


links?
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby derrida » 11 Jan 2011, 11:59

G. ADAM wrote:You outright liar! Blame ME for YOUR evasion!

The procedure is DEAD SIMPLE, we've done it numerous times in other forums.

There are a couple little added parts to make it objective - ie. I have to guess what question you are thinking of.

So this NSA scheme is all bullshit! The MODS start abusing you, the skeptics call themselves 'just critics' and all the skeptics join in abusing you anyway.

You all evaded my points and questions.

If you think guessing a number is all you need to test paranormal I may as well show my powers to a kindergarten class.

OK, HERE ARE SOME FUNDAMENTALS FOR YOU ALL.

I give answers to questions BLIND, but subjective.

That means to get an OBJECTIVE result you will need
CONTROLS
PLACEBOS
BLIND JUDGES
ENCRYPTION
PARTICIPATION
MODULAR TESTING


I won't start suggesting an easier protocol until we've done a SUBJECTIVE TEST RUN.

If you can't INVOKE THE CHANNEL how can you MEASURE IT?

Same old skeptic bullshit using TOP DOWN ARGUMENTS - "it won't work anyway" so why participate at all!


calm down...
i wont be the one testing you.. NP or AROUET will be
i trust their word, we all do here.

so explain them an easier to follow test you could do.. explain it like if they were kindergarden kids.. obviously we are no on your same intellectual level.. so dumb it down for us.
go ahead and show us your powers

i am ready to believe..
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 11 Jan 2011, 12:37

Same test as the one where I guess your number from 1 to 100.

But I make a list of 100 questions to include the channeling as part of the test.

And I'll be making 25 guesses, not 2!

I give you a list like so:

Number Question
1 Who is my crush?
2 Will I be rich?
3 Will I pass the test?
...
100 Will our PM be reelected?


You just pick a number, I guess it!
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby Arouet » 11 Jan 2011, 12:42

I'm really trying to figure out what you are proposing. You have a list of 100 questions. We pick one. And you have 25 guesses to figure out which question we've picked?
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 11 Jan 2011, 12:58

Arouet wrote:
G. ADAM wrote:The procedure is DEAD SIMPLE, we've done it numerous times in other forums.


links?



Under my protocol was a ----Sample Test-----

The first test I did better: http://www.ParanormalTest.com

I scored 7 out of 11, with 1 chance in 3 per question.
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 11 Jan 2011, 13:04

Arouet wrote:I'm really trying to figure out what you are proposing. You have a list of 100 questions. We pick one. And you have 25 guesses to figure out which question we've picked?



Yep, I'll just post 1, 4, 6, 10, 20, 22, 24, 26, 30, .. 78, 88, 94, 95, 97

Same odds as guessing your question as guessing the suit of a playing card!

You see, my bibliomancy quote answer will roughly answer about 20 of the questions.
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby derrida » 11 Jan 2011, 15:47

so is going to be a 1 in 4 chance?
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 11 Jan 2011, 16:17

Yep! passmark is 50%, 1 in 2, but I might be able to do better.

I'll need a few days to select the 100 questions.

Meanwhile we could do a practice Zenner Card test online, with encryption so there is no way to cheat.

You select one of the following:
STAR, SQUARE, WAVY LINES, TRIANGLE, CIRCLE, DOG, CAT, BIRD, HOUSE, MAN

Then enter say WAVY LINES into this site - or any MD5 site.

http://md5-hash-online.waraxe.us/

MD5 (WAVY LINES) = fcc6b8c01d3418ebed371b7e69c4ac61

So you don't "change your mind", you have to post the MD5 and THEN I post my 3 guesses!

Sound ok?
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby Arouet » 12 Jan 2011, 07:31

I might be willing to play your game, but not with the encryption thing. That is not necessary at this stage. I don't plan on fudging any of this. Neither does Ninja I assume. I have no idea what the point of the questions are. I'm certainly not going to come up with 100 questions and I haven't quite figured out what you are planning to show with them.

If you can explain clearly and precisely what is involved here, I'll play with you. But please don't just refer back to your old posts, I've seen them, and they are confusing. Lay it out, step by step, forget about the encryption and we'll see what we can do.
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 12 Jan 2011, 09:09

I'm not sure I can discard the encryption part.

You send me a page and line number you just make up, you have to have a question in mind, which is just the question next to the number you selected. I can't mindread naked numbers.

[Arouet]
TRIAL 1: PAGE 123, LINE 24

[ADAM]
ANSWER = "wind and the willows"
GUESSES = 1, 5, 7, 11, 20, 21, 22, 24, .... 93, 99 (25 guesses!)

[Arouet]
My number was 20.
HITS: 1/1

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But by sending me the MD5 of your number and question too, it LOCKS IT IN!

It helps me check the number later, and helps my 'spirit guide' know what question you are tele-asking.

I suggest you read up on MD5, 1 billion websites use it to store passwords so they compare your login password to the MD5 Hash rather than store your password online. It's currently impossible to work out your number from the MD5, you can only check the MD5 given the number. As long as your MD5 text is not easy to break, like a 5 letter text string.

Alternatively, if you promise to THINK OF THE QUESTION while posting the page and line number, that works too!

But you should really look up MD5, my blackberry just reminded to "ask for a receipt" so I don't think my spirit channel trusts you! haha
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby Arouet » 12 Jan 2011, 10:29

G. ADAM wrote:I'm not sure I can discard the encryption part.

You send me a page and line number you just make up, you have to have a question in mind, which is just the question next to the number you selected. I can't mindread naked numbers.

[Arouet]
TRIAL 1: PAGE 123, LINE 24

[ADAM]
ANSWER = "wind and the willows"
GUESSES = 1, 5, 7, 11, 20, 21, 22, 24, .... 93, 99 (25 guesses!)

[Arouet]
My number was 20.
HITS: 1/1

---------------------------

But by sending me the MD5 of your number and question too, it LOCKS IT IN!

It helps me check the number later, and helps my 'spirit guide' know what question you are tele-asking.

I suggest you read up on MD5, 1 billion websites use it to store passwords so they compare your login password to the MD5 Hash rather than store your password online. It's currently impossible to work out your number from the MD5, you can only check the MD5 given the number. As long as your MD5 text is not easy to break, like a 5 letter text string.

Alternatively, if you promise to THINK OF THE QUESTION while posting the page and line number, that works too!

But you should really look up MD5, my blackberry just reminded to "ask for a receipt" so I don't think my spirit channel trusts you! haha


There's no need for encryption at this stage. I don't feel like figuring it out and I don't know if you can use it to figure out the answer in advance. So not interested. And I'm not trying to be dense, but I still don't have the foggiest idea what is actually supposed to happen. Please pretend that you are explaining this to a learning disabled child.

1. What precisely is the purpose of these questions? Are they just surrogates for random numbers? That is: is part of this you figuring out the answer? Because that is highly unreliable. Or does it not matter whether the answer is yes/no because its really just a place card?
2. what the heck are these page and line numbers? Do they correspond to an actual book? What role do they play?
3. How does the actual trial go: please set it out step by step. You may think what you've set out is clear. It's not to me.
4. what are we considering to be a successful trial? Why?
5. If you insist on the encryption, you need to make a better argument for why it's necessary for a preliminary trial. We're not the MDC here. We can keep this honest by using both proponents and skeptics PMing our choices to each other before you give your answer. It's an informal exploratory test to see if there is anything remotely interesting going on.

Ok, that'll do to start, I may have more questions if these are answered.
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 12 Jan 2011, 11:25

It's like explaining how a motorbike works.

OK, the engine here takes fuel, and small internal explosions expand the gas and move the cylinders, the ends of the cylinders are hooked onto a crankshaft which via the chain spins the wheel! You know if you roll a coin it traverses across the desk, so do the wheels of the motorbike, so the engine propels the motorbike across the road. The fuel is about 20 liters of petrol, which is derived from fossil fuels, which goes into the tank and down the fuel line into the engine for the aforementioned internal explosions. Why am I explaining how the motorbike works? The purpose is for a person to get on the motorbike and then when the motorbike traverses across the road, so does the person on the aforesaid motorbike, saving him walking! The range is about 300km and is faster than walking, so that's why!

SKEPTICS: no no no way to complicated with your stupid explanations.

OK, get on the bike and twist the handle!

SKEPTICS: no that won't prove anything

OK, how about we push the bike and watch the wheels go around

SKEPTICS: ok I'm in, but what are the spokes for?

OK, here's a cite on the invention of the wheel

SKEPTICS: nah that's BS, no cites on all your weird witchcraft

OK, so you want me to re-explain everything for the 3rd time without using any descriptions used so far?

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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby Arouet » 12 Jan 2011, 12:00

Dude, you came to us! Pretty well everyone here has stated that they can't figure out your proposed experiment (if someone has figured it out, please enlighten me!). I've asked you to elaborate and set it out simply.

It's up to you. Right now I really don't have a clear idea of what you are asking. I have an idea, but its not crystal clear. I just want a clear, simple, protocol.
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby G. ADAM » 12 Jan 2011, 12:18

Arouet wrote:
G. ADAM wrote:
[Arouet]
TRIAL 1: PAGE 123, LINE 24

[ADAM]
ANSWER = "wind and the willows"
GUESSES = 1, 5, 7, 11, 20, 21, 22, 24, .... 93, 99 (25 guesses!)

[Arouet]
My number was 20.
HITS: 1/1




3. How does the actual trial go: please set it out step by step.



O K A Y ! S E E T H A T B I T U N D E R [ A R O U E T ] ? T H A T ' S W H A T Y O U P O S T !
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Re: I can do telepathy EASY! - NSA

Postby Arouet » 12 Jan 2011, 12:38

G. ADAM wrote:
Arouet wrote:
G. ADAM wrote:
[Arouet]
TRIAL 1: PAGE 123, LINE 24

[ADAM]
ANSWER = "wind and the willows"
GUESSES = 1, 5, 7, 11, 20, 21, 22, 24, .... 93, 99 (25 guesses!)

[Arouet]
My number was 20.
HITS: 1/1





3. How does the actual trial go: please set it out step by step.



O K A Y ! S E E T H A T B I T U N D E R [ A R O U E T ] ? T H A T ' S W H A T Y O U P O S T !


Please see my post above: this makes no sense to me. I have no idea how the actual experiment goes based on this.

Either set it out, step by step, from the beginning, or forget about it. You must have this set out somewhere! I have no idea what the page numbers mean, what book its based on, or why I'm giving it, what your answer is supposed to mean, how I choose my number (20). It may be clear to you, but its not to me. This may be my fault. Perhaps I'm just being dim after a long day. But right now I have no clue how I would proceed with your protocol. Please assume I'm an idiot and start from the beginning. Or don't. But as it stands I can't proceed.
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