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Re: Hey, look at me .. I can be a Pharm Shill too!

Postby Kevin Kane » 23 Jan 2010, 22:04

Imodium AD ... WORKS!*

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*It is undetermined if Rat died as a result of ingesting Imodium AD.
For human consumption only. Use only as directed.
Killing rats may result in legal consequences. Consult your local laws.
Imodium AD is a Johnson & Johnson healthcare product.
Rat was a paid spokesmodel.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ciscop » 24 Jan 2010, 01:17

Kevin Kane wrote:I'm saying that the body could ignore homepathic treatments easier than it can ignore pharmecological ones


OF COURSE.. since taking any homeopathic remedy is the same as taking NONE
is just water and sugar pills


Kevin Kane wrote:And it's easy to prove .. get a lab rat and shove pharmaceutical products into it until it dies. Why do you think they use lab rats anyway? Because they are making Rat Poison!!


Dude... being a profesional magician myself
it does takes a lot to amaze me
you amaze me, you are incredible
i really cant imagine somebody like you with the capacity of typing without the capacity of understanding what you are saying
can you even count how many fingers do you have in your left hand? (hint is less than six).

leave the rat poison to the critical thinking people
you stay with your sugar pills and water, when you get H1A1 thats gonna be real helpful :D
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 24 Jan 2010, 02:04

Imodium AD is actually fairly safe in comparison to other products.

The AD is for atropine, a natural poison, and diphenoxylate, a synthetic narcotic used in the Apollo space program.

The active ingredient in Imodium is loperamide, a synthetic compound derived from other synthetics, originally derived from .. coal tar, just like Mama used to make.

Inactive ingredients:

Carboxymethylcellulose sodium (cellulose used in toothpaste and KY-Jelly)
citric acid (made from sugar and black mold)
D&C yellow #10 (coal tar)
FD&C blue #1 (coal tar)
glycerin (from biodiesel)
flavor (???)
microcrystalline cellulose (DYK - cellulose can be made from recycled paper?)
propylene glycol (made from petroleum, natural gas or coal)
purified water
simethicone emulsion (from silicon, related to brake fluid and Silly Putty)
sodium benzoate (from crude oil, related to paint thinner, also used in fireworks to make them 'whistle')
sucralose (from corn syrup)
titanium dioxide (sunscreen mineral)
xanthan gum (laxative sugar)

Many of these industrial compounds are safely made or processed .. in China.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 24 Jan 2010, 02:35

ciscop wrote:
Dude... being a profesional magician myself
it does takes a lot to amaze me
you amaze me, you are incredible
i really cant imagine somebody like you with the capacity of typing without the capacity of understanding what you are saying
can you even count how many fingers do you have in your left hand? (hint is less than six).

leave the rat poison to the critical thinking people
you stay with your sugar pills and water, when you get H1A1 thats gonna be real helpful :D


Hey listen, since you're like a skeptic and interested in medical fraud and stuff, I was wondering what you thought of this massive medical fraud.

http://www.indy.com/posts/drug-makers-f ... to-swallow

I'm sure you have an opinion on medical fraud, since you were espousing medical opinions earlier.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 24 Jan 2010, 08:12

No answer?

No surprise.

Maybe ciscop is consulting the Oracles of Skepticism to tell him what to think and say.

Or maybe he injested too much rat poison and is in coal tar heaven.

Maybe he can answer this:
Why haven't skeptics been able to "debunk" any aspect of homeopathy?

Skeptics have made claims about homeopathy that are either:

1. False
2. Contestable
3. Highly disutable
4. Wildly unproven


So why don't skeptics use their debunking skills on something more relevant to society and humanity?

So they won't be seen as frauds, con-artists and inept jokes.

As they currently are.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ciscop » 24 Jan 2010, 08:30

hahahaha
oracles of skepticism??
hahahahaha


dude
i am against any kind of fraud
but there are some mistakes made to have progress
homeopathy never goes forward since it doesnt do anything

homeopathy has been debunked
it is just shaking water
you have to be dellusiona to believe shaking water makes the active element stronger
thats just has we say in spanish MUY PENDEJO
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 24 Jan 2010, 08:57

There's no possible win! Do you see that? Not even a draw. Skeptics will resort to mudslinging and false alarm and it will be pointless and dirty. Skeptics will lose.

Hey, suit yourself.

If anything, increasing skeptic criticism and attention to homeopathy will only make it more recognized and researched .. and tried. That certainly has been the effect it's had on me. Now I'm eager to try some homeopathy .... because it's just so darned safe!
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ProfWag » 24 Jan 2010, 19:49

Kevin Kane wrote:
All of it .. except if you can show me some that isn't rat poison. But the rest of it is rat poison .. because I said it is.

Well there you go. Now I believe everything you've posted Kevin...because you said it is so.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ProfWag » 24 Jan 2010, 19:50

Kevin Kane wrote: Now I'm eager to try some homeopathy .... because it's just so darned safe!

Yes, water is very safe. Doesn't cure much, but it is safe none-the-less.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 24 Jan 2010, 19:54

ProfWag wrote:Yes, water is very safe. Doesn't cure much, but it is safe none-the-less.

Water may be safe where you're from but where I am originally from, not so much. :lol:
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 24 Jan 2010, 20:21

ProfWag wrote:Yes, water is very safe. Doesn't cure much, but it is safe none-the-less.


So basically, homeopathy does everything modern medicine does, except it's much safer. Got it!

Ok, so let's summerize what we've learned:

-Modern pharmecological medicine is expensive, dangerous, has many side-effects, and works the same, or minimally better than placebo.

-Homeopathy is typically much cheaper, much .. much safer, and works more or less the same as pharm based treatments .. with more or less the same rate of success.

-Skeptics are false alarmists who blow smoke up the public's ass.

In conclusion:

Homeopathy is a worthwhile alternative medicine. Either as a primary (replacement) choice, secondary (alternative) choice, or as a complimentary treatment. More choices = more chances of success.

Safer, cheaper, just as effective.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ciscop » 25 Jan 2010, 01:43

ProfWag wrote:
Kevin Kane wrote:
All of it .. except if you can show me some that isn't rat poison. But the rest of it is rat poison .. because I said it is.

Well there you go. Now I believe everything you've posted Kevin...because you said it is so.


Because i said so??
what are you? 5??
is like arguing with a child
and then believers go and said skeptics make fun of them
well.. dude, obviously you are not on the same level if you use arguments like
*because i said so


:D
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby Kevin Kane » 25 Jan 2010, 06:21

Some people just don't get sarcasm .. or need a little help in recognizing it.

I'm here to help :D


BTW .. blowing smoke up the rectum was an ancient middle-eastern medical practice .. to dispell evil spirits. I'm glad to see skeptics are keeping this alternative medical technique alive.
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ciscop » 25 Jan 2010, 12:29

Kevin Kane wrote:Some people just don't get sarcasm .. or need a little help in recognizing it.

I'm here to help :D


BTW .. blowing smoke up the rectum was an ancient middle-eastern medical practice .. to dispell evil spirits. I'm glad to see skeptics are keeping this alternative medical technique alive.


trepanation is also an alternative practice still in use for some hardcore new agers
it supposed to increce brain blood volume
is sad that dummies in your side of the fence keep this primitive procedure alive
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Re: OMG .. the Homeopaths are Coming!!!

Postby ProfWag » 25 Jan 2010, 20:47

Kevin Kane wrote:
ProfWag wrote:Yes, water is very safe. Doesn't cure much, but it is safe none-the-less.


So basically, homeopathy does everything modern medicine does, except it's much safer. Got it!

Ok, so let's summerize what we've learned:

-Modern pharmecological medicine is expensive, dangerous, has many side-effects, and works the same, or minimally better than placebo.

-Homeopathy is typically much cheaper, much .. much safer, and works more or less the same as pharm based treatments .. with more or less the same rate of success.

-Skeptics are false alarmists who blow smoke up the public's ass.

In conclusion:

Homeopathy is a worthwhile alternative medicine. Either as a primary (replacement) choice, secondary (alternative) choice, or as a complimentary treatment. More choices = more chances of success.

Safer, cheaper, just as effective.

Uhhhhhhhhhh, no. That is not what we've learned. What we've learned is that modern medicine works. Homeopathic mediciines do not.
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