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Confused on what a skeptic is?

Postby Scepcop » 04 Nov 2014, 16:22

In my other forum, someone posted a great question:

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25081

Mr.Darcy wrote:I thought it was somebody that questioned everything, but the beholders don't do that. They listen to what the government media tells them and holds it as truth. Shouldnt the conspiracy theorists be called skeptics since they are the ones questioning?


My response:

Great point. Technically, yes, a skeptic is someone who questions everything. The originator of the word, Pyrrho, meant it to be so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptic

"In classical philosophy, skepticism refers to the teachings and the traits of the 'Skeptikoi', a school of philosophers of whom it was said that they 'asserted nothing but only opined.' (Liddell and Scott) In this sense, philosophical skepticism, or Pyrrhonism, is the philosophical position that one should suspend judgment in investigations.[1]"

And according to Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, a skeptic is:

"One who is yet undecided as to what is true; one who is looking or inquiring for what is true; an inquirer after facts or reasons."

But those who defend the establishment and materialism have hijacked the word to mean "someone who challenges and refutes any freethinker who believes in conspiracies and challenges the establishment and mainstream media".

So as usual, America has taken a great word and flipped it to mean it's opposite, just like it did with "good and bad" which is inversed in America.

Here are some great points I collected from YouTube where people have made the same observation:

"What skeptics fail to understand is that skepticism involves being skeptical of your own position, it does not mean just being skeptical of that which you do not believe in, otherwise we are all skeptics and that renders their use of the term "skeptic" meaningless. A true skeptic casts skepticism on their own position as well. Since the Randi crowd do not employ skepticism in this respect then they are fairly termed pseudo skeptics and demean the term skepticism."

Similarly:

"The original definition of skeptic was a person who questions ALL beliefs, facts, and points-of-view. A healthy perspective in my opinion. Today's common definition of skeptic is someone who questions any belief that strays outside of the status quo, yet leaving the status quo itself completely unquestioned. Kind of a juvenile and intellectually lazy practice in my opinion."

More info here:
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/characteristics.php
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/hijackingterms.php

One of my favorite quotes:

"The most productive mindset you can have is simply this: always, always, always have a belief system that doesn’t resist change. Go wherever the information leads you, without fear, because surely the truth is never something to dread." - Darryl Sloan, author of Reality Check
“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Re: Confused on what a skeptic is?

Postby Boo boo » 23 Dec 2014, 05:34

I used to read only fluffy New Age websites and I was 100% convinced that there's an afterlife after reading those. Until I went to skeptical sites. They were all saying that it's all wishful thinking, fear based, and unscientific. After that I thought that there was 0 evidence for an afterlife, ghosts ect. I became really depressed over it.

And when I saw supernatural and afterlife movies on TV, I got even more upset because I thought "The people in those movies have something that we don't: Eternal souls and afterlives." I got so upset to the point I didn't want to watch them anymore.

Then I started looking for real answers not just fluffy rabbit ones that you find on new age websites. I learned to read both sides of those things, not just the ones that fit your beliefs. I'm actually glad that I encountered those skeptics. Now I can tell the difference between answers and fluffy answers.

Just throwing it all out there. :D
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Re: Confused on what a skeptic is?

Postby Scepcop » 25 Dec 2014, 22:28

Boo boo wrote:I used to read only fluffy New Age websites and I was 100% convinced that there's an afterlife after reading those. Until I went to skeptical sites. They were all saying that it's all wishful thinking, fear based, and unscientific. After that I thought that there was 0 evidence for an afterlife, ghosts ect. I became really depressed over it.

And when I saw supernatural and afterlife movies on TV, I got even more upset because I thought "The people in those movies have something that we don't: Eternal souls and afterlives." I got so upset to the point I didn't want to watch them anymore.

Then I started looking for real answers not just fluffy rabbit ones that you find on new age websites. I learned to read both sides of those things, not just the ones that fit your beliefs. I'm actually glad that I encountered those skeptics. Now I can tell the difference between answers and fluffy answers.

Just throwing it all out there. :D


So did you find the answers you were looking for? If so, which sites or books do you recommend?

The more you study the skeptics, the more you realize that they are biased, guilty of cognitive dissonance, and have an agenda.

As far as NDE's, what do you think of Victor Zammit's site:
http://www.victorzammit.com

Or the NDERF site?
http://www.nderf.org
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Re: Confused on what a skeptic is?

Postby Boo boo » 26 Dec 2014, 04:01

I'm open-minded now. After seeing this spoof of Victor Zammit's website, I can't really take Zammit seriously. But I do like that NDE website.

Here's the spoof http://www.aaskolnick.com/dammit :?

I recommend this site http://www.near-death.com

Are you the one who posts on this blog? http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com
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