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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Dec 2012, 02:20

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Arouet wrote:His posts have little substance and many generalizations and insults. His post - imo - was not designed to put forward his legitimate opinion for intelligent debate. His post was - again imo - designed to get people riled up. That's trolling.

Correction. Around here that's par for the course.

Arouet wrote:I think you're trying to be funny, but I don't think it is. There's some teasing, sure, but there is substance too!

Since we're talking opinion here... IMO, his post was designed to get skeptics riled up. I do believe that part IS his substance. Why am I wrong when I say that this type of post is par for this forum? It may not particularly acceptable behavior to create intelligent debate among the opposing sides but it sure happens more than not. It's actually what makes us so darned special (and no, I'm not being funny here) when it comes to being a forum where everyone is pretty much left to their own demise and opinion without fear of censorship or hostile attack. Which BTW, justintime was put on the defense when posts from another forum were brought up before he even got a chance to do anything calculated. I'm sure that took all the fun out of it for him.

As for "trolling", that's what it may be on most forums but it's a large part of the associated topic material here.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 02:32

Hmm, guess I'll leave this one to the "agree to disagree" pile.

Re: putting him on the defensive, were you referring to my saying I'd responded to him over on JREF? I was basically just saying hi and letting him know we'd met each other before. I didn't know the background at the time.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Dec 2012, 02:55

Arouet wrote:Hmm, guess I'll leave this one to the "agree to disagree" pile.

Re: putting him on the defensive, were you referring to my saying I'd responded to him over on JREF? I was basically just saying hi and letting him know we'd met each other before. I didn't know the background at the time.

You forget how well I know you. It's why I laugh when someone calls you a troll. When someone calls you a troll, that's usually my first sign that a newbie may be at the very least, a bit shell shocked or at their worst, up to no good. I can also understand why a newbie might think that as well when joining a new forum. It's tough to feel like you fit in before you stick your neck out a bit on these things. (Notice I didn't say "thingy")

As for the "agree to disagree" heap, I don't disagree with you at all on your feelings about this sort of stuff. I do come from a different mind set however as I don't feel comfortable on any other skeptic based BB forum for many different reasons. Even the pleasant ones can be somewhat uncomfortable at times and even here I struggle to keep up with much of the topic material, let alone feel that I have intelligent input to add. Not to mention when I get busy in real life, I wind up chirping up late in the convo and usually throw it off a bit. Hence, I can understand how a newbie might feel or why someone might react as they do when getting acquainted. We are products of our past experiences and will react accordingly. Forums can be a rats nest of personalities and alter egos that are not easily navigated without getting some nicks and cuts along the way.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 04:01

Hey Justin, I'm not so interesting in wading through your greatest hits on other forums. If you want to start a new topic here I'd be happy to look at it and promise to respond seriously even in the face of your blatant trolling attempts!
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 04:40

The fact that you sometimes make substantive posts doesn't negate that you also post a lot of trollish posts. Also, you seem pretty selective about what posts you respond to and what posts you don't.

I'm not saying some of the posters who responded to you weren't rude, I'm just saying that you go to these forums looking to rile people up and respond to you rudely. In short, you go looking for a fight, not just intellectual debate.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby The23rdman » 18 Dec 2012, 04:55

A misogynistic troll with an gigantic ego to boot. Seriously, guys, why are you even entertaining him with a second of your time?
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 05:00

The23rdman wrote:A misogynistic troll with an gigantic ego to boot. Seriously, guys, why are you even entertaining him with a second of your time?


Like I said, trolls can be fun to bat around with - so long as they don't continue to cross the line (such as sexism/racism etc.) and they are genuinely entertaining. He seems to have stopped the sexist comments, I agree if he continues he should be banned. Troll-entertainment is generally short lived as most stick to a pretty narrow gameplan and after awhile it just gets repetitive.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 05:02

justintime wrote:NinjaPuppy, I wonder if Arouet is struggling to identify the object of his fear or the cause of his insecurity. He accuses me of being a troll and then a misogynist. What might be bothering hm is my Neanderthal like appeal that women are drawn to. Women know their Neanderthals were not very adept with using tools and I must be all hands. A talent that is only disconcerting to males but a great asset in a baking partner. :lol:


See what I mean, 23? Entertaining! (I'd ask to hear more about his Neanderthal-magneticism but I'm afraid that would draw him into territory that would lead to his banning)
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby The23rdman » 18 Dec 2012, 05:37

Arouet wrote:
justintime wrote:NinjaPuppy, I wonder if Arouet is struggling to identify the object of his fear or the cause of his insecurity. He accuses me of being a troll and then a misogynist. What might be bothering hm is my Neanderthal like appeal that women are drawn to. Women know their Neanderthals were not very adept with using tools and I must be all hands. A talent that is only disconcerting to males but a great asset in a baking partner. :lol:


See what I mean, 23? Entertaining! (I'd ask to hear more about his Neanderthal-magneticism but I'm afraid that would draw him into territory that would lead to his banning)


Okay, I'm along for the ride. He does seem quite entertaining. ;)
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby really? » 18 Dec 2012, 06:10

justintime wrote:NinjaPuppy, I wonder if Arouet is struggling to identify the object of his fear or the cause of his insecurity. . :lol:


I've heard this accusation leveled a lot at skeptics. But I know it's not true.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby The23rdman » 18 Dec 2012, 06:16

really? wrote:
justintime wrote:NinjaPuppy, I wonder if Arouet is struggling to identify the object of his fear or the cause of his insecurity. . :lol:


I've heard this accusation leveled a lot at skeptics. But I know it's not true.


How do you know it's not true?
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 06:20

really? wrote:
justintime wrote:NinjaPuppy, I wonder if Arouet is struggling to identify the object of his fear or the cause of his insecurity. . :lol:


I've heard this accusation leveled a lot at skeptics. But I know it's not true.


In this case he's talking about my alleged insecurity next to him as a chick-magnet. He's not talking about being scared of the implications of psi.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 18 Dec 2012, 06:39

Ok, one Neanderthal joke = funny. Keeping them coming? Not so much.

Just thought I'd help you out keep being entertaining.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Dec 2012, 06:43

justintime wrote:NinjaPuppy, I wonder if Arouet is struggling to identify the object of his fear or the cause of his insecurity. He accuses me of being a troll and then a misogynist. What might be bothering hm is my Neanderthal like appeal that women are drawn to.

Take it from me, women gazing at you with that deer in the headlights look on their face is not always desire. :lol:

justintime wrote:Women know their Neanderthals were not very adept with using tools and I must be all hands. A talent that is only disconcerting to males but a great asset in a baking partner. :lol:

A baking partner? Yes, but a Spamalamadingdong doesn't make noise when I'm asleep. ;)
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Dec 2012, 06:56

justintime wrote:No Neanderthal has ever been reported struck by a woman driver even where excessive drooling was detected.

Are you one of those French models???? This entire conversation reminds me of this commercial:
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