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How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby really? » 13 Jan 2013, 22:54

I saw this asked on the JREF forum. What do you think ?
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 14 Jan 2013, 05:28

I think that you have to do a lot of thinking to be a critical thinker.
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby really? » 14 Jan 2013, 08:05

NinjaPuppy wrote:I think that you have to do a lot of thinking to be a critical thinker.


Just like getting to Carnegie Hall practice does it. ;) But no further thoughts on precisely what does make one a better critical thinker ?
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby Misha » 14 Jan 2013, 20:33

really? wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:I think that you have to do a lot of thinking to be a critical thinker.


Just like getting to Carnegie Hall practice does it. ;) But no further thoughts on precisely what does make one a better critical thinker ?


I agree, Really. Practice, reevaluate, hone it some more. The biggest is to stay humble and realize that there is always someone out there is who better informed.
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby really? » 14 Jan 2013, 23:44

Misha wrote:The biggest is to stay humble and realize that there is always someone out there is who better informed.

This does not make one a better critical thinker.
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby Misha » 15 Jan 2013, 00:15

really? wrote:
Misha wrote:The biggest is to stay humble and realize that there is always someone out there is who better informed.

This does not make one a better critical thinker.


Without humility, an important ingredient, critical thinking is lost. Really, can you give an example of a person you find an excellent critical thinker?
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby really? » 15 Jan 2013, 21:05

Misha wrote:The biggest is to stay humble and realize that there is always someone out there is who better informed.

really? wrote:This does not make one a better critical thinker.


Without humility, an important ingredient, critical thinking is lost. Really, can you give an example of a person you find an excellent critical thinker?[/quote]

Humility doesn't either. Your question isn't important.
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 15 Jan 2013, 21:40

Misha wrote:The biggest is to stay humble and realize that there is always someone out there is who better informed.

really? wrote:This does not make one a better critical thinker.


Misha wrote:Without humility, an important ingredient, critical thinking is lost. Really, can you give an example of a person you find an excellent critical thinker?

Misha makes an excellent point about humility. Granted, being a self absorbed blowhard does not affect the ability to be a critical thinker, it can affect the way people think of that person and their thinking.

If/when someone starts to think that they are smarter than others, it can be a drawback in critical thinking. An inflated ego or self imposed sense of importance can cloud the issue.

Critical thinking is a type of reasonable, reflective thinking that is aimed at deciding what to believe or what to do.[1] It is a way of deciding whether a claim is always true, sometimes true, partly true, or false. Critical thinking can be traced in Western thought to the Socratic method of Ancient Greece and in the East, to the Buddhist kalama sutta and Abhidharma. Critical thinking is an important component of most professions. It is a part of the formal education process and is increasingly significant as students progress through university to graduate education, although there is debate among educators about its precise meaning and scope.[2]


If this definition is unacceptable, please do supply another.
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby Arouet » 16 Jan 2013, 01:47

NinjaPuppy wrote:Misha makes an excellent point about humility. Granted, being a self absorbed blowhard does not affect the ability to be a critical thinker, it can affect the way people think of that person and their thinking.


You're onto something here. It's not that humility necessarily makes someone a good critical thinker - I think both arrogant and humble people can be good critical thinkers. However, the person who presents their arguments in a jerk-like fashion is more likely to distract the recipient of the argument from the actual content - and thus the chance to have a constructive conversation can be lost.


If/when someone starts to think that they are smarter than others, it can be a drawback in critical thinking. An inflated ego or self imposed sense of importance can cloud the issue.


Again I think you're onto something. When we don't respect the person making the opposite argument for any reason we can tend to not really pay attention to their argument but jump to conclusions about what we think their argument is based on our opinion of them.
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Re: How do you get to be a good critical thinker?

Postby really? » 16 Jan 2013, 04:12

NinjaPuppy wrote:
Misha wrote:The biggest is to stay humble and realize that there is always someone out there is who better informed.

really? wrote:This does not make one a better critical thinker.


Misha wrote:Without humility, an important ingredient, critical thinking is lost. Really, can you give an example of a person you find an excellent critical thinker?

Misha makes an excellent point about humility. Granted, being a self absorbed blowhard does not affect the ability to be a critical thinker, it can affect the way people think of that person and their thinking.

If/when someone starts to think that they are smarter than others, it can be a drawback in critical thinking. An inflated ego or self imposed sense of importance can cloud the issue.

Critical thinking is a type of reasonable, reflective thinking that is aimed at deciding what to believe or what to do.[1] It is a way of deciding whether a claim is always true, sometimes true, partly true, or false.


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A person can be humble (or they may be bombastic ) in their character, neither character trait makes for good or bad critical thinker.
That's a good answer.
One part of learning to be a better critical thinker is learning all the myriad ways in which we fool ourselves and each other. There are literally hundreds of empirically verified cognitive biases, forms of statistical trickery, logical fallacies and so on. Another part is psychological, and consists of adjusting your idealized self-image so that you no longer think of yourself as a person who believes X" where X is any moral, religious, political or empirical belief , but rather see yourself as a person who believes whatever logic and the evidence says. In short detach yourself from your passions when applying critical thinking.
Another part is learning science, statistics, logic and conditional probability so that you can more reliably home in on how the universe actually works.
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