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The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby FatFreddy » 12 Jan 2014, 03:38

The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU
(If these links don't work, do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving")

At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr76qSQ9 ... playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... orses&aq=f

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

The above video refutes this attempt by the government to mislead the public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhab86KoVjU

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There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm

What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved their methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIy8ZqqK5G8
(If the above link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Conspiracy Theory : Did We Land on the Moon ?")

It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 40 second mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwzyqICYTM


(The above video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" keeps going on and off-line. If the above link is dead, click here)
http://video.google.es/videosearch?q=a+ ... unny+thin#

It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
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When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

Here it is doubled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E

When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations) combined with wire supports in the later missions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW31fOWzY-E
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Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc
(00:52 time mark)

The corner of Collins' jacket swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.

If the above link is dead, the footage can be seen here.
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17299829n75q ... Little+Gem
(17:40 time mark)

It's necessary to download the "Veoh video player" to be able to see it. It's free.
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Look at the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing in this clip.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4

That is real zero-gravity and they behave quite differently.

The movement of Collins' jacket corner is very different from that of the straps in this clip which is in zero-G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofwzby1c7o
(3:17 time mark)

It looks the same as the movement of this guy's jacket corners in gravity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNGNW5Evs4

One possible explanation is that they were trying to fake zero-gravity in a diving plane and the plane wasn't diving fast enough at that point.
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There is no blast crater under the lander.
http://thoughtworld.files.wordpress.com ... cture1.jpg

That is discussed in this four part video series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQNZQdJFtI


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Look at the size of the reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor at the beginning of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

Now look at the reflection of the sun in the visor in this picture at the top of this page.
http://www.allposters.com/es/gallery.as ... DestType=7

It's pretty clear that the reflection in the Apollo astronaut's visor is that of a big light. Here's an article about that.
http://www.aulis.com/sunsize.htm

Also, look at the reflection of the sun in the astroanut's visor in this video at the 1:25 time mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM8OYqcXzUo
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At bottom of this page there's a picture of the astronaut's visor that has in it the reflection of what looks like some kind of studio light.
http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_9.html

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Here's some evidence that they used wire supports to fake lunar gravity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjesg6ShxMU
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The moon rocks are often presented as proof the missions were real. There are plausible explanations that would explain them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIlgQhUi9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA
http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/a ... -ENGL.html
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... sited&aq=f

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People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... d+war&aq=f

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
(excerpt)
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Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
(excerpt)
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The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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Everyone should read Chomsky's analysis of the cold war.
http://books.zcommunications.org/chomsk ... m-3-1.html
(excerpt)
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On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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It someone were to make a deathbed statement saying the moon missions were faked, the press would never report it as the press is controlled.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media ... watch.html
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... media&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

Also, it would be downright dangerous for someone to come forward. Look what happened to these guys.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU


Science journals are controlled too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA

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Here are some videos.
http://es.youtube.com/results?search_qu ... type=&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc
http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39LR3Jay0Q
(6 parts. If the link doesn't work, do a YouTube search on "Was is Only a Paper Moon?")

http://www.youtube.com/user/un4g1v3n1?feature=watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIWhzTzLn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjzKbJqa ... FD150981FC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LouHGOEMmK0

What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)
http://video.google.es/videosearch?hl=e ... =N&tab=wv#
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... LZem8w-o0Q
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Here are some articles.
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
http://erichufschmid.net/Interview-with ... ibrel.html
http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
http://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm
http://www.reddit.com/domain/northerntr ... ogspot.com
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com ... ng_24.html
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.co. ... itive.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Apollo_NASA.html
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html
(Wagging the Moondoggie)

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1477
(Bill Kaysing's book)

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The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

Here's a link to the entire conference.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2487804641

This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too.
http://vimeo.com/24508433

The main reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. Here are some articles and videos I've found on the subject.

http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
(excerpt)
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There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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two sets of radiation data
http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeau ... /id82.html
(excerpt)
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To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInfoFo ... lenge.html
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... &hl=apollo

These two are important
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http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKB5u_VTt6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcytzf7PkRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DhY1NvmIc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnckudD9oa8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTzo3G_hvo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiIR7hA1rM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toI1Xw9paW4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xlKooAbKpM
(23 parts)

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The Chinese space walks were obviously faked in a water tank and NASA's official position is that the Chinese space walks were real.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/

The pro-Apollo posters at the forums of both the "Clavius" and "Bad Astronomy" websites tap danced around the evidence that the Chinese space walk was faked because they have to agree with the official US government version and they can't say it was faked without looking silly. Here are the threads. They're hilarious.

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php ... conspiracy
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.c ... hread=2206

They pretty much destroyed the credibility of those two sites when they didn't seriously address the evidence.
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/vi ... php?t=1222

It's pretty clear that they're government damage-control sites.

Here's some good research if anyone wants to delve further.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeFor ... 03&t=51606

On this thread there's a debate between Jarrah White and Jay Windley.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446557/boa ... 905495?p=1

Jay Windley is the most famous pro-Apollo person on the internet.
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

Jarrah White is the main hoax-believer on the internet.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... faker&aq=f

In this video Jarrah says he stopped posting in that debate because the moderator was deleting his posts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK9TXFQLjg4

Jay Windley will only debate where the moderator will ride to his rescue when he's cornered.

Here's some more stuff about Clavius and Bad Astronomy.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628


There are reasons for why scientists don't come forward and say Apollo was a hoax.

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159
(excerpts)
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Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. ( :cool: They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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They may have faked the Mars missions too. Do a YouTube search on "MarsFaker" or click on this link.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... 3.6.1l10l0
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby FatFreddy » 12 Jan 2014, 03:40

Here's a discussion I had with Jay Windley*.
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p= ... count=7907
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p= ... count=7990
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=251326

He said some pretty lame things which destroyed his credibility.

The above discussion is about what happens when dust gets kicked up on the moon. Sometimes I wonder if those links lead to the same discussion in other parts of the world.

http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/vi ... php?t=1222
(excerpt)
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Canceling posts. Posts disappear or only propagate in a limited region. This has deniability as just network problems, since sometimes there really are network problems. One technique is to secretly "localize" posts that are not approved by some censor or gatekeeper. Most people will not notice if their post only appears on their local news server, and will assume it has propagated worldwide. They will just think no one has replied (though spoof replies can be posted locally, too). I check to see that my posts show up at DejaNews. Hardly foolproof, but at least then I know people can read them there (at least until more sophisticated spoofing is available, perhaps tailored to domain names or user names).
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If anyone clicks on the links and gets something different, please advise me.

* http://www.clavius.org/about.html
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby NinjaPuppy » 12 Jan 2014, 03:46

That's quite a list!

Welcome!
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby SydneyPSIder » 12 Jan 2014, 05:19

FatFreddy wrote:The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury.

Thanks, FF, I've noticed that too lately -- the govt seems to be borrowing from the techniques of internet marketeers -- e.g. the first 15 pages of google returns for a new fad diet or amazing weight loss supplement or 'double your dating' are all variants of the same marketing info.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 12 Jan 2014, 22:18

Oh for the love of God. Here we go again.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 12 Jan 2014, 22:51

FatFreddy wrote:The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury.

Okay, I took the bait. Below were the 10 websites listed on the first page after doing a search on "Apollo hoax" on google.com as you stated. If it was neutral, it didn't get a point. If it was for the hoax, it got a point. If it was against the hoax, it didn't get a point. You say that there are 15 pro-Apollo sites for every hoax, so lets' see how accurate your statement is:

Moon landing conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories‎
This is a neutral site. Both pro and con for the hoax. 0 for 1

ApolloHoax.net | Yes, they really DID walk on the Moon
http://www.apollohoax.net/
This is against the the hoax 0 for 2

5 Min 100% Proof - Apollo = Hoax by Joe Rogan - YouTube
► 5:23► 5:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6PMfBeFawk
Aug 20, 2011 - Uploaded by spacehopperballs
This a pro for the hoax. 1 for 3

Top 10 Apollo Hoax Theories | Space.com
http://www.space.com/12814-top-10-apoll ... ories.html
Sep 2, 2011 - NASA Apollo moon missions really did land 12 astronauts on the lunar surface in the 1960s and 1970s, but that hasn't stopped conspiracy ...
This is against the hoax. 1 for 4 (doing good so far!)

10 Reasons the Moon Landings Could Be a Hoax - Listverse
listverse.com/2012/12/.../10-reasons-the-moon-landings-could-be-a-hoa...‎
Dec 28, 2012 - After the Apollo missions ended in the seventies, why haven't we ever ... Dick to fake them to put America in good standing in the Cold War.
This is pro for the hoax. 2 for 5

How Stanley Kubrick Faked the Apollo Moon Landings | Reality ...
realitysandwich.com/23226/kubrick_apollo/‎
Someone high up in the shadow government decided to fake the entire ... No one knows how the powers-that-be convinced Kubrick to direct the Apollo landings.
This is pro for the hoax. 3 for 6 (Suddenly we are at 50% for a hoax. Uh oh)

The Apollo Hoax - Cosmic Conspiracies
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
Article by Dave Cosnette asserting that the NASA film footage of the Apollo Missions and the lunar landing were a hoax.
This is pro for the hoax. 4 for 7 (Could Freddy's statement be hogwash after all?)


In Pictures: Top 10 Apollo hoax claims | Science | theguardian.com
http://www.theguardian.com › News › Science › Apollo 11‎
Jul 2, 2009 - Sceptics claim to have the photographic evidence that proves the moon landings were shot in a studio – do they have a case?
This appears to be a neutral site for viewers to make their own opinions, but possibly leans towards against the hoax. 4 for 8


Northerntruthseeker: The Apollo Moon Landing Hoax: Proof Positive ...
northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/.../apollo-moon-landing-hoax-proof-p...‎,
Feb 23, 2012 - However the Apollo Believers have been going absolutely hog wild since the release of these "images" saying that now the Apollo Hoax ...
Very pro hoax. 5 for 9.

Clavius Moon Base - debunking the moon hoax
http://www.clavius.org/
Organization of amateurs and professionals devoted to the Apollo program and its manned exploration of the moon. Debunks the so-called conspiracy theories ...
Very against the hoax. 5 for 10.

It appears that a simple test of Fat Fred's claim that only 1 out of 15 websites supports that the moon landing was a hoax and are being buried by the US Government is bologna. (I would have used the word bullshit, but that may give me a demerit by the moderator...) Out of 10 websites listed on the first page of the google search, 5 of them were pro moon hoax. I determine that this poster didn't do his own research to formulate an opinion and took the lazy way out by reading what others say and also posted information that simply wasn't accurate. Both of which are in line with my opinion of most conspiracy theorists.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby FatFreddy » 13 Jan 2014, 00:59

It appears that a simple test of Fat Fred's claim that only 1 out of 15 websites supports that the moon landing was a hoax and are being buried by the US Government is bologna. (I would have used the word bullshit, but that may give me a demerit by the moderator...) Out of 10 websites listed on the first page of the google search, 5 of them were pro moon hoax. I determine that this poster didn't do his own research to formulate an opinion and took the lazy way out by reading what others say and also posted information that simply wasn't accurate. Both of which are in line with my opinion of most conspiracy theorists.


To get an average, you have to take a sample that is bigger than one page.

Here's some stuff I forgot to put in the big list.
http://www.moonfaker.com/faqs.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRXretl0amQ
Moonfaker: LRO, Flag or no Flag?

Here's some info on MythBusters in case anyone is wondering about their series on the moon landing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M
http://aulis.com/mythbusters.htm
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 13 Jan 2014, 02:38

FatFreddy wrote:
It appears that a simple test of Fat Fred's claim that only 1 out of 15 websites supports that the moon landing was a hoax and are being buried by the US Government is bologna. (I would have used the word bullshit, but that may give me a demerit by the moderator...) Out of 10 websites listed on the first page of the google search, 5 of them were pro moon hoax. I determine that this poster didn't do his own research to formulate an opinion and took the lazy way out by reading what others say and also posted information that simply wasn't accurate. Both of which are in line with my opinion of most conspiracy theorists.


To get an average, you have to take a sample that is bigger than one page.

Normally I would wholeheartedly agree with you Mr. Freddy, but your point was that the U.S. Government buries Apollo hoax website, yet half of the websites on the first page are pro-hoax so the evidence doesn't appear to support your point. Otherwise, if they were trying to bury it, they would certainly try to take them off the first page of web searches.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 13 Jan 2014, 02:45

Further Mr. Freddy, if you wish to get your point across on this website, it would probably be best to stick to a point rather than spam a site with an infinite number of unreferenced youtube videos that few, if anyone, will watch. Well, except for Mr. Scepcop himself.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby FatFreddy » 13 Jan 2014, 04:51

Further Mr. Freddy, if you wish to get your point across on this website, it would probably be best to stick to a point rather than spam a site with an infinite number of unreferenced youtube videos that few, if anyone, will watch. Well, except for Mr. Scepcop himself.


If all of the info is on the first page, it won't get buried and be scattered. This way, all the viewers will see it. One tactic disinfo agents use is to fill up threads with trash posts to make the info harder to come across.

Let's talk about the way the flag moves without being touched at the 2:37 time mark in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6MTrin5eU

These two videos show that it started moving before the astronaut got close enough to touch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

This video shows that the flag movement is consistent with its being in atmosphere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

This closes the whole case by itself.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 13 Jan 2014, 05:45

These and all other moon hoax topics have been discussed in great detail on this site. Post something new, or at least your own opinion rather than that of JW and we'll discuss.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby FatFreddy » 13 Jan 2014, 05:48

These and all other moon hoax topics have been discussed in great detail on this site. Post something new, or at least your own opinion rather than that of JW and we'll discuss.


Could you link to where this has been discussed? We can talk about whether it's really been debunked.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby NinjaPuppy » 13 Jan 2014, 20:55

ProfWag wrote:These and all other moon hoax topics have been discussed in great detail on this site. Post something new, or at least your own opinion rather than that of JW and we'll discuss.

While I agree that everyone's personal view on a topic should certainly be added to a new topic.... what has or hasn't already been discussed on this site is not an issue. ProfWag, you gotta start somewhere. The older discussions tend to get a bit diluted and/or off track. I see nothing wrong with a fresh start. Especially when we have a fresh mindset doing the starting.

Allow me to use a term that may suit you better...... MULLIGAN!
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 14 Jan 2014, 20:33

FatFreddy wrote:
These and all other moon hoax topics have been discussed in great detail on this site. Post something new, or at least your own opinion rather than that of JW and we'll discuss.


Could you link to where this has been discussed? We can talk about whether it's really been debunked.

Please note that I did not say it was "debunked," I said it has been discussed in great detail on this site (23 pages to be exact.)
The discussion begins at: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1496

The moon landing will never be debunked, regardless of the concrete evidence that has been presented since the late 1960's...There are just too many people who find it "fun" to argue.
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Re: The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

Postby ProfWag » 14 Jan 2014, 20:38

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:These and all other moon hoax topics have been discussed in great detail on this site. Post something new, or at least your own opinion rather than that of JW and we'll discuss.

While I agree that everyone's personal view on a topic should certainly be added to a new topic.... what has or hasn't already been discussed on this site is not an issue. ProfWag, you gotta start somewhere. The older discussions tend to get a bit diluted and/or off track. I see nothing wrong with a fresh start. Especially when we have a fresh mindset doing the starting.

Allow me to use a term that may suit you better...... MULLIGAN!

Ninja, where's the love! I totally agree with you that older discussions get off track and that there's nothing wrong with a fresh start. However, when that "fresh start" begins with links to NINETY ONE (91) videos (not to mention the articles that I didn't count), that doesn't really give anyone a place to start, does it?
If the poster would start with one topic and show evidence why he/she believes one way or another, I'd be happy to oblige, but I have a life and can't begin to look at 91 videos.
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