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Big paradox in the manipulation of consciousness?

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Big paradox in the manipulation of consciousness?

Postby Scepcop » 21 Mar 2012, 16:19

Have any of you noticed this huge paradox and oxymoron in David Icke's teachings regarding the manipulation of consciousness by the rulers of the world?

He and other conspiracy researchers cite occultic and scientific ways that the rulers keep people in a low consciousness left-brained vibrational level, so that they live in fear and weakness. Based on the indoctrination techniques of society, media and government which train us to be obedient slaves and robots who do not think for themselves, this seems to be true. However, here's the big paradox:

If the rulers know how to manipulate consciousness and keep people materialistic, left-brained, and less spiritual, then they must be spiritual people themselves who are very aware with a high level of consciousness right? I mean, think about it. People who are not spiritual at all, or who are highly materialistic, driven by instinct, narrow minded, conformist, cold, evil, etc. do not even acknowledge the existence of spirituality or higher consciousness. It's not part of their paradigm, nor is it a factor in their lives. Only people who are intellectual, highly attuned, sensitive, aware and spiritually focused are concerned with those things. The rest don't even consider such things.

So if the rulers of the world are spiritual and highly evolved in terms of consciousness, and consider themselves "enlightened" or "illuminated" (Illuminati), then why would they be so evil? Why would they enslave the world, start unnecessary wars, stage false flag attacks, lie all the time to the public, kill millions of innocent people, keep the world living in fear, stress, economic enslavement, etc.? Those aren't the kind of things that spiritual people do right? Yet, if they were not spiritual themselves, then how would they even know anything about how to manipulate or subvert the spirituality/consciousness of the masses?

Do you see what I'm getting at? In order to even REALIZE that there are different levels of consciousness, you have to be on one of the higher levels yourself (compared to most people). Otherwise, if you are on a lower level of consciousness, you will not even realize that there are different levels of consciousness. See what I mean?

But if the elite rulers are on a higher level of consciousness, then why are they so evil and sociopathic and deceptive? Why are they into control and enslavement of others, instead of setting them free? Why aren't they teaching spiritual things in school, on the media, and making it part of the culture?

Something about this doesn't add up. Have you realized this?

Yet David Icke claims that the Illuminati bloodlines vibrate at low levels of consciousness, and that's why they are evil and lack empathy. But if that's so, then they wouldn't know shit about spirituality, consciousness or the occult, right? This seems to be a huge internal contradiction.

Have you ever wondered about this? What's the answer or solution to this paradox?

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Re: Big paradox in David Icke's teachings about consciousnes

Postby ProfWag » 21 Mar 2012, 17:24

Scepcop wrote: What's the answer or solution to this paradox?


Pop open a beer, undo the top button on your pants, and watch a ballgame...
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Re: Big paradox in David Icke's teachings about consciousnes

Postby Arouet » 22 Mar 2012, 00:28

Maybe he's just wrong?
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Re: Big paradox in David Icke's teachings about consciousnes

Postby August West » 22 Mar 2012, 08:19

Well, let's see...

I'm reminded of the old parable where a frog and a scorpion are trying to cross a river. The frog offers to let the scorpion ride on his back if it agrees not to sting him. Sure enough, halfway across the river the scorpion stings the frog. "The frog says, "What have you done? Now we both will die!" The scorpion says, "What did you expect? I'm a scorpion."

People can choose to do enormous evil while fully aware of better choices.

Why would demons choose to side with Lucifer when everybody knows God is better, and will eventually win the battle of Armeggeddon?

Why do I still eat junk food when I know vegetables are better for me?

Why would an alcoholic continue to drink when they know sobriety would allow for a better life?

Maybe it's just free will.

Maybe it's something as simple as that, but maybe that's just a glib explanation.

How about this...and this make Icke's work MORE consistent, not less:

Icke contends that the bloodline of Kings and the royal families of Europe is actually the bloodline of the Nephilim and their descendants. And our presidents are often the blood relatives of the royals. For example, Bush is a cousin to Prince Charles. In fact, Mitt Romney is related by blood to SEVEN former presidents!

So, Icke says our world leaders are not entirely human. Therefore, not at all interested in human notions of spirituality. If they are Nephilim / fallen angel / alien / demon in origin, or simply dwellers of a lower vibratory plane / dimension, then perhaps these beings are simply incapable of spiritual growth as we understand it.

They may be scorpions.
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Re: Big paradox in David Icke's teachings about consciousnes

Postby cecil1 » 19 Apr 2012, 04:52

Because icke is a big fat liar and a phony.

Anyone who understands even the tiniest bit of spirituality will attest that an enlightened being challenges their own perceptions when confronted with a negative emotion.

Consciousness is a thorough understanding, it differs from self-awareness.

So how does that align with the elite performing so many atrocious acts of deceit and negligence?

It doesn't.

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