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Discussions about the James Randi Educational Foundation and its Million Dollar Challenge.

There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby Franc28 » 26 Jul 2009, 12:38

The paranormal proponents on this board seem to be operating under the illusion that the JREF MDP exists in order to award money to a successful performance of a paranormal skill.

That's what they claim to the public. But based on what is said on the forum, by JREF members between them, this is clearly not correct. The JREF MDP exists in order to publicize the existence of the JREF. That is the sole reason for the MDP's existence: padding Randi's wallet, and he makes a great deal of money from the JREF (I remember once seeing the JREF financial statements, the man lives a pretty rich life). They do like testing people because it's a high-profile activity, and because it happens so few often, kinda like a baby shower.

(this is also, BTW, the reason for the constant rule-changes: as regards to well-known celebrities, less barriers must be put in their way, so the publicity can come more easily)

So all these complaints may very well be valid (I make no claim to judge either way), but they're missing the point. Randi doesn't give a damn about any unfairness in the process. Seeing some of the real kooky people who have applied throughout the years, I have to agree with him a bit on that issue.

That being said, I really admire Randi, although not for the MDP, obviously. The MDP is just another magician's trick, and you've all been fooled by the misdirection. You expected a fair process, when fairness is besides the point.
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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby skeprogue » 26 Jul 2009, 13:17

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby highflyertoo » 26 Jul 2009, 15:17

Exactly, the MDC is a gimmick designed to have more members on the JREF. The more members results in more ''donations'', book sales,etc...

James fails to realize that he is damaging people's minds when he challenges certain people , saying that they never had or are not having supernatural experiences.( James should not call ''all people'' delusional kooks and woo woo retards )

Randi's skills as a ''stage magician'' does not entitle him to be an Authority of the unexplained phenomenon, Yet that's exactly what he's selling.
Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby skeprogue » 26 Jul 2009, 15:56

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby Franc28 » 26 Jul 2009, 16:59

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby skeprogue » 26 Jul 2009, 17:40

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby Franc28 » 27 Jul 2009, 02:51

Banned by the JREF Board for calling them on their "bullshit"...
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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby skeprogue » 27 Jul 2009, 07:17

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby Franc28 » 27 Jul 2009, 09:50

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby skeprogue » 27 Jul 2009, 10:19

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby Ozz » 27 Jul 2009, 11:47

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby Franc28 » 27 Jul 2009, 12:03

Yes, I agree about Randi being an expert on deception, and that's basically the main element that a test of "paranormal powers" would need, if anyone was ever interested in such tests.
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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby highflyertoo » 27 Jul 2009, 13:52

What would make most skeptics think Randi is an honest man?.... his past deceptions in illusion ? Can a man that tricked people become an Authority in ''HONESTY''. I myself am skeptical of skeptics who tell the people to trust them.
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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby skeprogue » 27 Jul 2009, 15:11

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Re: There seems to be some confusion regarding this topic

Postby highflyertoo » 27 Jul 2009, 15:27

Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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