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what exactly drives the skeptical ??

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Pegasus » 26 Nov 2009, 16:44

This is my opinions, based on my experiences of reading all kinds of arguments here and there.

True Skeptics and True Believers are all the same, they are all closed (narrow) minded and dangerous to everyone.

I myself are probable a sort of Postmodern Agnostic in that I do not recognize either position until there are a certain proven hypothesis on something, even then I keep an open mind. In the same sentence I do not dismiss claims out of thin air because I know for a fact that one persons experiences can never be measured by another persons opinions or any facts in the world (or at least it has not so far ;) ).

I can see allot of dangerous minds on these forums as well as on skeptics forums and I like to read them both.

I'm a "true believer" in the scientific method because I think this is the best method that we have today to actually learn and be certain how things work and make sure that we can keep develop our society in a better direction.

The kinds of skeptics that are suggested in this thread are dangerous to all, as are believers who just are the opposite of the same coin. Believers are the one who automatically believe that anything that can't be explained are supernatural, when most likely there are a more mundane and easy explanation, we just failed to ask the right question. Sometimes we even lack the knowledge to ask the right question.

Another misconception of the believers (as well as the skeptics) is that anything that are proven with the scientific method will become natural and not be unnatural. Therefore real skeptics/believers will never do such a distinction. Things just are what they are, plain and simple.

I urge people to be less fundamentalist in their positions and listen a little more to the other side’s argument. Those that doesn't listen back can still have valuable information for you to listen to. If you can't do that, then you are no better than they are.

Most people also misunderstand what the scientific method is. Most of these investigations are hypothesis not truths. The closest to the truth that we can get are in mathematics. In the world of physics, biology, sociology, history and the like we always work with hypothesis and theories. That is why we call evolution a theory and not a fact. People always use the word fact and truth too much and don't understand what they are saying.
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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Pegasus » 26 Nov 2009, 21:56

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby ciscop » 27 Nov 2009, 05:41

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Nostradamus » 27 Nov 2009, 12:08

Scimitars were not available - beware January 19, 2038 is upon us.
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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Pegasus » 27 Nov 2009, 16:16

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Nostradamus » 27 Nov 2009, 21:37

Pegasus. I did read your definitions. By those definitions evolution is a fact. Darwinism is the theory to explain the fact.
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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby ProfWag » 27 Nov 2009, 23:26

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby ciscop » 28 Nov 2009, 04:28

hahaha nice image!
quite funny
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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Nostradamus » 08 Dec 2009, 11:37

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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby Kevin Kane » 25 Jan 2010, 08:46

Skeptic is just another word for grumpy, old, narrow-minded whiney babies who hate change.

Did you ever hear of "Adult Diapers"? When we were young, we'd just pee in our pants! Waterproof magic pants? What superstitious fooey!

That's my impersonation of skeptics.
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Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??

Postby ciscop » 25 Jan 2010, 12:34

For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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