Three Bible verses that say the Bible is NOT God’s word!

[Arouet]

[NinjaPuppy]

[enriquemellado]

just a thought but you should read more carefuly.. i was surpirised to see how deep you went on some verses. and how shallow on others.
2timothy 3.. says.. inspired by God...... you can't separate 'inspired' from 'God'... it's one word..... exhaled by God is what it says......
this compliments with 2 Peter 1.. where it says men of God were 'inspired'..... to write the scriptures.. this is not inspired like timothy's verse.... it means moved... driven... used to carry along....
God spoke the Bible... and men just carried it ... when they wrote it and when they carried it from generation to generatrion until today..

but i believe the bigges mistake is to question authorship... that's like trying to read a book "written" by 'someone', and while reading it, question where in the book it says, and more over proves, that this 'someone' in fact wrote it.
you just can't start even reading genesis 1:1 without believing God wrote it.... it's His book.... you either believe it or not... there is nothing to prove.. ..
you want to read a book God didn't write.... that men calim He wrote, there are plenty.. the Bible just isn't one of them...
the purpuse is to know Him not to prove to me or anyone else for that matter that He wrote it...
the Bible is there to show you the God that wrote it and how to get to Him, not to prove His existance...
in the end i guess, it's just a question of faith... that's is what is required to touch the invisible...
i do agree people can't expalin that and that is no excuse, as Christians we don't have an excuse, and a "it just says so" isn't enough, but the real center question is... Why would you want to read the Bible???? and after you read it, as Pontious Pilate said... "What should I do with this Jesus?"......
God Bless...

[ProfWag]

[Craig Browning]

[ProfWag]

In a recent article on yahoo, I quote the following: " In the old translation of the world's most popular Bible, John the Evangelist declares: "If anyone says, 'I love God,' yet hates his brother, he is a liar." Make that "brother or sister" in a new translation that includes more gender-neutral language and is drawing criticism from some conservatives who argue the changes can alter the theological message."
So, if it is the word of God, how can the Bible be changed? Was it divine intervention that told them it should be changed from "brother" to "brother and sister?" If so, why wasn't it so stated when it was originally written? If not divine intervention, then why was the original writer right and the current translator wrong? If there is an answer, then who are we to say what should be in the Bible and what should not? You see, I just have way, way too many issues with that book to believe it was the word of God.

[Craig Browning]

One important point when it comes to biblical infallibility, at least to my mind, centers on the casting out of demons and how so many of the demonic concepts spoken of in the book are proven illnesses and have been accepted as such for most of the past century or two. There are other such demonstrations, including scientific explanation that is now being used to "prove" certain biblical tales (such as the Exodus of Moses) that for eons, were viewed as sacrilege (it has been known since the time it all happened, that Volcano of immense size had triggered the entire series of events and that certain areas in which "the sea" stood, did at times reveal sand-bars that could be walked across -- the recent revelations of these things is more of a confirmation of long known facts). Then again, the whole Moses story can be connected to a far older Babylonian tale in which the main character's name was Mesus. . . coincidence?

Here's a similar issue that theologians are aware of but priests & preachers deliberately ignore; "The World" is a term used in both Testaments but not in context of the day, an era in which the "known world" was quite limited and nothing close to what we know today as "the world" -- an entire planet. As a result, the great flood of Noah's fame probably didn't entail a global inundation but simply a regional disaster such a Gilgamesh's tale would imply (along with the scores of flood tales that date to about the same period of time and ONLY within the geographic area that would have been viewed as the "Known World" in a pre-bronze-age perspective. Who's to say, given this reality, that the destruction of the known world by fire and a great war wasn't the formal destruction of Rome?

Jesus offers a couple of important points on this issue as well, the first was uttered when he was roughly 12 years old and asked by the rabbi what the whole of the law was, his reply was "To love the Lord thy God with all thy soul and might; to love thy neighbor as they self. . . the rest is but commentary"

In other words, everything outside this most basic tenet, is man putting words into god's mouth -- nothing else actually matters.

The irony is that this "Golden Rule" can be found in EVERY major religious tradition the world over in some form, complete with the suffix factor "Do unto others as you would have done unto you".

Wouldn't the world be a wonderful place to live if man would simply pull his head out of his ass and LISTEN -- to realize none of the other stuff matters; it separates and creates dissension rather than uniting and allowing room for peace to prevail?

[victorious]

"“Bible is the word of God” implies that the text in the Bible books are God’s words verbatim."
>>man, you're simply implying. what's your basis? where do you relate the word verbatim?

"And as we know, words are just that - words"
>>that's your reality, such a limited 'reality'. real Christians do not live by 'words' in your own reality. we all agree that we live by our faith - faith in our own reality - faith which your reality will always hide from you, unless you step out of that dark limitation. Things, people, Satan is holding you back. Break free! (you might know soon that it's been a long time you've been free, you're just proud you might get the chains broken by yourself. don't try hard dear, move, and God will bless you even more - that which is eternal.)

[victorious]

this also reminds me of Jesus speaking to the Pharisees in figures of speech. to THEM, parables were like "what is He saying??"; to the UNBELIEVERS of this time, the Holy Bible is already a complete set of figures of speech where word per word is a mystery. guys, you're studying the Bible, right? looking for inconsistencies because you hate it? if so, may i rhetorically ask: Why would a man raise a child only because he does not want a child? (does it make any sense?hmmm...)

[Craig Browning]

[TheLordIsMySheppard]

The Bible clearly states that In the beginning was the Word and the Word became flesh. Christ IS the Word of God. Why Christians generally state that the Bible is the word of God I do not know but it is written in there for us to chose to believe or not.

Also, it does my head in when people say 'the world could not have been created in seven days....WHY do we think that we have the monopoly on days???!!!!! typical earthlings!! in Genesis it first defines what a day is, darkness and light evening and morning was the first day (neither should we think that we have the monopoly on evening and morning). Then on the fourth day two lights to govern earth day and earth night (sun and moon)....question, by what measure were the previous days? .... a question I ask myself.