Really,
If you are going to think critically about this, you should be able
to separate Uri Geller as a test subject by scientists like Pulthoff
and Targ, and Uri Geller as a TV celeb demonstrating things on show.
It is possible, as I said that Uri Geller does cheat to preserve his star,
but as far the scientific experiments go, the controls were vigorous and
several experiments were conducted which were able to rule out basic
things like magic tricks to sophisticated international intelligence scams.
The spoons were examined by sophisticated microscopes to show evidence
of any force being applied on them. There was no evidence, on the
contrary evidence showed that the spoons melted at a molecular level.
You seem to have faith in science and its vigorous scientific method, but
your faith seems to vanish with these experiments on Uri Geller. Can you explain
this inconsistency?
Regarding the so-called debunkling of Uri Geller. Nothing of the sort has been done,
all Randi has done is showed how similar feats Geller does can be done using magic tricks
such as concealed magnets(compass effect), concealed mirrors(mind reading) and pre-bending
of spoons and keys. This does not in fact prove that is how Geller did it, and nor are Randi
suggested reproductions of the same quality as Geller does them. For instance, in the compass
effect Randi accuses him of using a concealed magnet in a thump tip. The only proof that this
happened is speculation of an unusual hand gesture he does. Randi demonstration shows a little
magnet attached to the edge of his palm can replicate the effect. However, Randi puts his palm
very close to the compass, whereas Geller has his palm about 20cm above the compass, which
would mean the magnet would not have enough field strength to affect the compass.
Secondly, the compass moves immediately when Randi puts his palm over it, because that is exactly how it
would behave if a magnet is placed above it. In contrast, in Gellers demonstration there is a delay
before the compasss moves, which is impossible if there was indeed a magnet over it.
I am not going to rule out trickery though. It is still possible, because in the end all I am seeing is a TV demonstration,
which has little to no controls. I only accept controlled scientific experiments as conclusive.
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