A SCEPCOP article I would like to discuss

[caniswalensis]

[ProfWag]

Personally, I think his entire Treatise is subjective bullsh!t, but hey, that's just me, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and that doesn't mean he is a bad person.

[ciscop]

as always
i back up what profwag said

oh.. and i add .. boring...
it is just pure pointless rambling
it is like craig browning on meth-kind-of-rambling

[caniswalensis]

Well, I hope someone that would like to actually discuss this article will post.

[really?]

[ProfWag]

I wholeheartedly believe that skepticism and atheisism have little to do with each other. Perhaps in their belief in ghosts, but that's about it when it comes to the paranormal. People become atheists because they were either brought up that way or had a falling out with god which really has nothing to do with being able to move objects with their mind or foretell the future.

[really?]

[ProfWag]

[Craig Browning]

[ciscop]

i was just pointing out that you tend to ramble a lot and you know it, people have told you that before,
and that scescop´s manifesto, is just pure pointless rambling
but worse than yours. that´s it, just take a joke, i swear to you i wasnt trying to poke the old bear (as you said).
it was just a comment.

by the way
i dont doubt you are brilliant
you are a creator of magic and you know your stuff (magic related)
when talking about how the world works.. well thats another story

[NinjaPuppy]

[ciscop]

[Craig Browning]

Firstly... thank you ciscop for your compliments on the magic side... I'll ignore your opinion about the other simply because my life experiences have taught me in ways far different from your own... that's how such should be seen.

As to "getting to the point"... I honestly don't know what you mean. I think I do fair when it comes to clarifying things for folks, especially when I write (sadly, I don't think so well on my feet these days). I do my best to offer insights on a heavily misrepresented topic (from both sides) in as down to earth manner as I can, my goals always being to trim as much fat from things as possible, offering as "logical" an explanation as I can muster (one that frequently ticks off the believers as much as it does the skeptics )

Believers hate me because I'm robbing them of their fantasy around spirituality, smashing the rose tinted glasses into the ground and telling them to actually SEE what's in front of them.

Skeptics hate me because my philosophy lends the idea of legitimacy to certain aspects of the psychic/paranormal element. Fortunately, most who know me know that I'm not really that far over the great horizon however... There is a motive to my madness, as they say.

Now maybe it's because I'm part Libra and born on the Cusps of Virgo & Libra, but I'm a big one for "balance" and finding the point of agreement with most all things in life, I've always been that way. That is why it's so important to me to hold to the points of view I tend to express and in so doing, attempt to express them in as clear a manner as possible... especially when I'm doing talks, workshops or shows... I'd loose them all if I couldn't keep things clear to them there

Anywho... ciscop, let's put the hatchets away

[ciscop]

[Scepcop]