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Discussion about UFO's, Aliens, ET's, Alien Abductions, Ancient Astronaut theories, etc.

Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Eteponge » 04 Jun 2010, 11:25

Well, you see, my interest in Time Travel and Parallel Universes primarily comes from growing up watching Quantum Leap and Sliders (the later of which was created by Tracy Torme, himself a UFO Researcher).

I think it's very possible. I'd love to see concrete evidence for either. But, as a facts person, I want to know whether or not something is true, rather than just believing something, as belief is useless to me, knowing is everything. Either things are, or they aren't. Right now, there is insufficient data on those topics, but I'd love to see them proven.

I have Carl Sagan's hopefulness though ...

"If we could travel into the past, it's mind-boggling what would be possible. For one thing, history would become an experimental science, which it certainly isn't today. The possible insights into our own past and nature and origins would be dazzling. I have no idea whether it's possible, but it's certainly worth exploring." - Carl Sagan
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby ciscop » 04 Jun 2010, 13:39

parallel dimensions and timelines?
WTF????

is everybody here getting better weed than i get?
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Eteponge » 04 Jun 2010, 14:08

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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby ciscop » 04 Jun 2010, 15:17

yep
like it or not
he was a genius
he wasnt talking about the possibility of a guy not feeding for 65 years cause thats would be consider superdumb
which some of the people here do

hey lets face it
some of the people here got confused with Lost
but the people that believed in a guy not feeding for 65 years got confused with Sesame street
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Nostradamus » 09 Jun 2010, 05:44

Scimitars were not available - beware January 19, 2038 is upon us.
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Nostradamus » 09 Jun 2010, 05:52

You mention science in the hopes of associating your failed claims with science. The belief in UFOs is not science. It is not comparable to science. You are guily of hyperbole and gross misrepresentation. Your claims of "staggering amounts of evidence" is just a blatant lie. And the statements made by eyewitness accounts are not facts. So to claim that someone is falsifying facts is actually weeding out nonsense.
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Indigo Child » 09 Jun 2010, 06:08

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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Indigo Child » 10 Jun 2010, 03:15

Here you go:

Summary: In November, 1986, a Japanese crew of a jumbo freighter aircraft witnessed three unidentified objects while flying over Alaska, USA. This sighting gained international attention when the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) announced that it was going to officially investigate this sighting because the Air Route Traffic Control Center in Anchorage, Alaska, had reported that the UFO had been detected on radar. The UFOs in this case were tracked on both ground and airborne radar, witnessed by experienced airline pilots, and confirmed by a FAA Division Chief.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case287.htm

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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby NinjaPuppy » 10 Jun 2010, 03:19

Whatever it was, it was HUGE! Those illustrations were a real eye opener.
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Indigo Child » 10 Jun 2010, 03:28

Yep, it's absolutely massive :shock:

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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby ciscop » 10 Jun 2010, 03:36

too bad it was in 1986
now that everybody carries a camera is easier to tell what it is than when it was just stories
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

Postby Scepcop » 24 Sep 2010, 13:56

Another good article I found debunking UFO skeptics:

The Logical Trickery of the UFO Skeptic
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc265.htm

More articles debunking UFO skeptics:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/skepticsanalysis.htm
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Re: Debunking Pseudoskepticism: Common fallacies on ET/UFO

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