Michelle Whitedove - Winner of Americas Psychic Challenge

[Scepcop]

How does she do this? No way. Is this a setup?

Why doesn't she apply for the Randi Challenge?

[Arouet]

Jesus Scepcop, you don't believe the establishment view on anything, but you just accept "reality" tv as legit?

[Craig Browning]

While I could offer a short list of theories, especially given how much editing was done with the footage, I would have to say that she has some legitimate talent... note what I'm saying, I'm not using the "P" world, I'm simply pointing out that she is "empathic" or "aware" when it comes to her surroundings and picking up on those "little things" most folks never register on.. .but that's what psychics do, isn't it?

Why not do the Randi challenge?

Because it's a waste of time, money and one's soul. There is NOTHING about the Randi Challenge that's above board, I don't care what anyone wants to scream "prove it" about; it's a con that was designed with one thing in mind; discouraging faith on all levels and belittling people who are typically quite down to earth, honest and true to their convictions. Yet, it seems his hobby and that of his minions, to torment anyone that's such a soft target. It's easy to win a challenge when you know up front, all of the perspectives, belief buttons, etc. that can be punched for the sake of not just making the mark nervous and even fearful (such as Randi's man-handling that little Russian girl a few years ago, let alone the animals he "tested")

As I've said before, most of the people tied to the JREF/Million Dollar Farce are the equivalent of right-wing Christians; they repeat what the preachers tells them to believe and gain validation by imposing their views onto others that may not wish to be part of their "reality". I'm not talking about the "Upper Tier" here, on the personal level, even Randi can be charming and fun to be with. I've not spent a lot of time in his presence but we've had our chats here and there when I was researching possible charlatan situations. My personal agenda being closer to what Houdini originally focused on; getting rid of the crooks, not devastating everyone or placing all the duckies in the same pen.

Based on that trailer I'd say Ms. Whitedove (and I question that last name for someone so Lilly white... I hope she's at least married to a Native American and not some New Age/Castaneda fanatic that "thinks" they are in tune with the Indian spirit) has more than enough going for her and has no need to go PR seeking by knocking on Randi's door.

[derrida]

do you have any proof that the randi challenge is what you say it is craig?
or is it just another one of your stories
people against critical thinking often forget that there are 30 challenges around the world. the randi challenge is just one of them.

hope she goes and pass one of those
but she wont do that.

[Arouet]

Yeah, Craig, either post specifics of why you think its a con, or drop it. You love to make grand accusations. If you don't want to get into the nitty gritty then stop posting the accusations! You call yourself a skeptic - so back your arguments up!

[Scepcop]

[Arouet]

I'm sure if she'd apply, she'd get tested. If she passed, she'd get paid.

What I'm surprised at, Scepcop, is why you believe reality tv? Do you really think its real?

lol

[Craig Browning]

[Scepcop]

[really?]

[really?]

[Arouet]

[derrida]

[Craig Browning]

[derrida]

perfect
so when banachek takes over JREF
will you stop complaining? will you accept that the challenge is real? that there´s money ?