Flu Vaccine INCREASES Risk of Serious Pandemic Flu

[NinjaPuppy]

[NinjaPuppy]

[SydneyPSIder]

You have my sincerst sympathies, NP. I am trying to locate some research on genetic markers, will send on if I can find. There are websites out there though with information, including the Dr Mercola site. I have seen plenty of info online about DPT as well.

Interestingly, the Australian govt has just started a 'National Disability Insurance Scheme' which will need to be funded, in order to help parents/carers and sufferers of disabilities throughout their lifespan.

[SydneyPSIder]

[Arouet]

Any of those links actual scientific studies?

[SydneyPSIder]

[SydneyPSIder]

[NinjaPuppy]

[Arouet]

[SydneyPSIder]

The fact that only a small % of children get seriously injured has given the medical fraternity a free pass on this for too long. Arouet can look up his 'studies' and present them, but there is no such thing as a 'scientific' study in this area if it is paid for by big pharma or by health officials who have a vested interest in keeping the system going for whatever reason -- profits, kickbacks, work and job creation, brainwashing, whatever. I've already seen criticisms of many study methodologies where they restrict follow-up to a couple of weeks or use exlusionary criteria to their advantage in denying a statistical association.

It's a small % not counting the high and increasing rate of asthma and allergies, the now 1 in 70 boys getting ASP (used to be 1 in 100,000 once upon a time), and the rising rates of ADHD and SIDS as the number of jabs and shots of antigen goes up every year. Researchers are trying to blame new allergens in the environment and all kinds of crap, anything but vaccines.

[Arouet]

You have to be careful, though, Syndney against just viewing the people who support your view as unbiased and the people who don't support your view as biased. The fact is, there is bias everywhere. We all have biases, its part of being human. The trick is - as you've identified - to use sound methodology to try and get some answers.

So why don't we see if we can find some studies that seem sound (please keep in mind that I'm a layperson, with no scientific background other than what I've picked up by looking into these topics) and we can discuss those.

[NinjaPuppy]

[Arouet]

Here's a recent study in Japan exploring any link between autism and MMR vaccine, done by a university not a pharmaceutical company.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22521285

[SydneyPSIder]

Thanks for that insight, NP, I don't want to raise doubts for the sake of a crusade, but there are many anecdotal stories like yours where the problems set in after a jab. I feel that for extreme diseases like whooping cough and polio, yes, the risk of a jab is justified, but there should not be as many being given as there are for a range of much less threatening diseases -- particularly not the Hep B jab given at the first moment after childbirth for no reason that makes sense. Dr Palevsky questions this also in one of the links above. Early successes with important vaccines seemed to go to big pharma's head. And when you get a jab, you should do so knowing that the chances of something going wrong are still there, just that the chances of getting a nasty disease with similar or worse consequences are higher. Gardasil has been rejected by the target group of girls and their parents for this reason, who are voting with their feet.

Re the Japanese study, Arouet, I would just reference this 'critical metastudy' of the other studies:



which examines methodological problems with 16 major studies. As I note, hearing about many anecdotal cases mounts up to something -- these studies seem to somehow hide the necessary detail as noted in the analysis of each one -- the design flaws sometimes seem very obvious and it makes for very uncomfortable reading. Note also that this is not just about one MMR jab causing autism in isolation -- the cumulative effect of multiple DTP jabs and HiB and Hep B jabs etc which contain different immune system adjuvants which are constantly being changed needs to be addressed also. This is a separate matter than the problem of contaminated batches of vaccine that sometimes get produced that can wreak havoc -- I heard about dozens of babies at Newcastle Hospital who all became very sick after their vaccinations -- not sure if any died -- due to a bad batch of vaccine -- the hospital somehow managed to cover this up, the only time you heard about it was through the medical grapevine, i.e. nurses blurting it out by accident in conversation. Even nurses know it's not worth their careers to reveal when things go wrong in the medical system or say anything to reduce public confidence in institutionalised care. See the problem?

[Arouet]

ok, why don't you present a study you find reliable showing the link between autism and vaccines and we can look at that.