Yes, it gets very confusing here; especially with the board's owner tossing in so much supposition tied to radical conspiracy theories as being the "real deal". I've mentioned it to others, the fact that this is the sort of thing that not only sours the pot but likewise prevents others from either being active or even joining the forum in the first place... it's too "Out There".
On the other end of that pole we have those that are so critical in their thinking and world view that I'm confident you could turn them into a diamond factory (we'd need to double check with their proctologist however, to confirm the fact that they are a tight ass... and not in the good way). Let's face it, fanaticism is everywhere and when it comes to the
need certain self-ordained skeptics have to be superior to one and all, it's easy to see where their evangelic manner comes from. Similarly however, this same kernel is what brings about the ridiculous from within the "believers" side of things.
My view is more Hermetic;
it's all the same thing, separated by degree. What you consider to be hot might only be warm to me and vice versa; the same thing, just different points of view.
This is a view that gets reinforced regularly, as I find "science" putting out new words and points of view that more or less "prove' elements behind the paranormal (ESP, Psychics, Magick, ghosts, etc.) but from a supposedly contrasting point of view; they are saying the same thing taught by the
educated students of the occult/metaphysics, just using different terms and theoretical points of view. At the end of the day, I think we are all due to wake-up sometime down the road, to realize this and thus, come into a state of agreement. It can't happen however, until humankind learns to find the median in things vs. seeking out a black & white rigidity that simply don't exist in the Universe -- life & existence is grey, always has been. This is one reason why I tend to stand in the middle on things more than not. Granted, there are issues that irritate the hell out of me when it comes to the paranoia and/or delusions presented by both sides, with the "believers" getting a bit ridiculous at times... again, when it comes to belief in Big Brother and Secret Society agendas and such.
It's not a lack of belief on my part, just the fact that I don't need to allow such things to control or absorb my life. After all, they are much bigger and more influential than I am, been around longer than any of us and thus far, they've actually done a halfway decent job tending to the care & feeding of billions of worker bees.