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Well, I've been busy lately and not recently on, sorry. But, I am just wondering; has science and skepticism ever gone against each other? So, skeptics look up to science for the answers and believes anything by science (well, some at least), but skeptics and scientist's arguing with each other about whats real and whats fake and debating a lot? Basically, science and Christianity. Science says God is fake, while the Christians say God is real. And, now that science is starting to take some Psi and paranormal seriously and it is starting to kick in at science. Whilst, pseudo skeptics will say Psi and the paranormal needs more research by science and parapsychology itself.

Now, not all of science or scientists say Psi or the paranormal or Deities are fake.

This is something I might even right a book about...

Thanks!

It's a good question.

I was going to reply, but after reading Arouet's excellent post, i realized there was no need to say antyting else.

Oi Vey

The simple fact is Skeptics, like all Born-Again-(insert your belief of choice) types will NEVER admit to being wrong about anything; if and when information surfaces that sustains a view contrary to their own it is not to their fault, but that of the people introducing this contrary data; they are the quacks, crack-pots, charlatans, delusional fools and any other derogatory concept you can imagine... just look at how many times "Science" has "proven" both sides of the issue... You have those that believe in everything from Psychics to the idea that Global Warming/Environment Change is real who have used Science to prove it and then you have the camp that has "proven" the converse using the same vehicle -- Science.

My personal belief is that very little of what is presented in today's world as "fact" really is. There are simply too many self-righteous jerks in our world that want to be superior to everyone that will not yield to their point of view and as such, manipulate the "facts" (linguistically, psychologically and "scientifically") to sustain said delusion. I stress that this comes from folks standing on either side of the proverbial aisle and not just one specific camp, even though the rationalists seem to dominate the over-all scene, frequently to the point of being down-right brutish.

If we are to step away from all the hair-splitting "politics" and "opinion-bias" we can find those little kernels of actual truth which, for the most part, are applicable in supporting both sides of the paranormal fence (depending upon the argument being discussed... proving that ET is trying to rule the world is a bit far-fetched, but sustaining the fact that certain "Psychic" abilities are valid... that's an entirely different issue altogether, and science has supported such... but that's where semantics and all the aforementioned game-play takes root and bastardizes said findings )

This is a "no win" issue when everything gets boiled down...

Arouet,
If skepticism is not about taking positions, then how come Michael Shermer says that "There is no such thing as the supernatural" and that "I conclude that Bigfoot doesn't exist"? Isn't that taking positions? Or is he not a true skeptic? Is Shermer wrong about anything, in your opinion?

Craig was right. Skeptics do not admit that they are wrong. Can you show us articles by Randi or Shermer admitting that they were wrong about something?