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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

Postby Indigo Child » 02 Jul 2010, 02:06

Why is the discussion of Yoga and Ayurveda relevant to this discussion? It may
have gone slightly off-topic, but what it shows is that things that skeptics consider
"woo" actually are very beneficial. So us so-called believers have very good reason to
support what they call "woo"
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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

Postby Indigo Child » 02 Jul 2010, 02:43

Here is another web site, by an Ayurvedic research institiute that also draws the parallels
between Rajaykshma and AIDS: http://www.ayurved-for-cancer.org/trust ... /aids.html

However, most impressive is the various long term cases documented on their site, where cancer paitents
are succesfully treated and and cured of cancer using Ayurvedic treatment. Here is an example:
http://www.ayurved-for-cancer.org/achie ... case1.html

In other words my original claim that Yoga and Ayurveda can cure diseases which the West consider incurable
like diabetes, cancer, aids etc is proven to be true. Thus establishing clearly that they are superior to allopathic
medicine. The fact of the matter is, until modern times, Western medicine was 3000 years behind these systems.
It is still behind.
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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

Postby Indigo Child » 02 Jul 2010, 04:34

Back to semantics again.

Now you are contesting three levels of meanings:

cure
treatment
Reducing symptoms

A cure is when the disease is completely removed
Treatment is when the disease is lessened, but not cured
Reducing symptoms is when a symptom of a disease is reduced, but the disease itself may not be lessened

In the cases I have pointed out Ayurveda has both been able to cure and treat diseases:

In the case of Dr Shantakumar, one of his patients who had AIDS, tested for HIV negative at the end of treatment. It's a cure, because the disease is gone.
In the case of the cancer patients I have showed, there was a complete remission of cancer and no further treatment was required, at the end of their treatment. It's a cure,
because the disease is gone.

What is clear here is Ayurveda does cure these diseases. It may not cure them all the time, but when it does not cure, it treats. Case closed.
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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

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Re: What Have Believers Done to Help there Fellow Man/Woman

Postby Indigo Child » 02 Jul 2010, 04:54

Because the article says so. The patient had AIDS. At the end of treatment he did not.

It does not get anymore simpler.
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