Discuss Divination, Fortune Telling - Astrology, Tarot, Runes, I Ching, Tea Leaves, etc. and Predictions.
03 Mar 2010, 11:06
Any proof that this involved the paranormal?
03 Mar 2010, 20:59
Prove it's a Fraud.
Jim Callahan from the Dark Truth Radio show has offered $20,000.00 if you can do so.
So lets see the proof!
It's an easy 20 Grand if you can ... But I know you can't!!!!!!
03 Mar 2010, 21:33
You have not answered our questions. That to me is sufficient proof that your odds claim is a fraud.
Answer the simple questions.
03 Mar 2010, 21:51
Too bad Dave didn't come on here prior to the Super Bowl so we could all follow along. Perhaps it's legit, but knowing that over the past couple Super Bowls when he made predictions on YouTube, he taped several versions in advance and then deleted the ones that weren't accurate so I'm fairly confident there was nothing paranormal going on here as well. Just as Jimbo is willing to give $20,000 to prove that it wasn't, I'll give Dave Koenig $1,000 if he can prove his thought dial "success" was the result of parapsychological precognition though. (Sorry, but my pockets aren't as deep as others)
03 Mar 2010, 22:34
if dave hates something more than skepticism (and rationality and intelligence)
ProfWag... you just kicked dave in the balls revealing his method for the pasts superbowls
the funny part is
his method was obvious to everybody on the cafe
we were just laughing at him
and he doesnt seem to realize that...
04 Mar 2010, 00:15
Am I going to have to take down this entire topic???
04 Mar 2010, 00:56
Of course not NJ.
The problem is that someone has posted a claim. That claim has some serious flaws. The first is the math. Professor kindly admits he doesn't understand math. He asks for assistance. All well done.
The problem is that because he does not understand the math he incorrectly assumes that the answer he was given matches his claim. We all know from his posts that he does not understand odds.
To verify what is being claimed by the Professor we asked for simple statements that would corroborate his math claims such as what was the question posed to the math guy? We saw the answer, but not the question. The math answer uses words that the Professor does not understand. I asked questions that would show us whether or not his protocol matches the requirements of the math answer.
So the Professor apparently knowing he has screwed up goes into blow hard mode. He could have answered a few questions, but he chose not to. He chose to hide the facts that would be likely to have decided the issues. That makes everyone think FRAUD!
What he did wrong is not something I'm planning to tell him since he has chosen to dig in his heels and refuse to answer questions. What a fraud does is they elicit enough information to adjust their fraud to state, after the fact, that that is what they did when told what they needed to do.
For example, if I asked if they wore tin foil hats and did shots of homeopathic vodka while running around naked with Michael Schermer's photo glued to their backside he would probably agree and then adjust his protocol to reflect proper scientific protocol. You know what I mean despite my farcical example.
My guess is that the mistakes he made reduced the odds to 50-50, or as has been suggested here he reduced the odds of failure to 0.
04 Mar 2010, 09:58
i never said it was you!! read back my post!
are you saying you are an overweight hawaiian t-shirt guy that smells like vodka?
i know many oveweight magicians that pretend to be psychic than smell like vodka
(not a hawaian t-shirt, thats kind of bad taste)
by the way, well done at the café
you finally got booted!!
i guess tom cutts couldnt spot you on that one right?
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