Discuss Divination, Fortune Telling - Astrology, Tarot, Runes, I Ching, Tea Leaves, etc. and Predictions.
19 Jul 2010, 09:37
The skeptics expose their own personal and collective dsyfunction. Its an inability to see patterns like ordinary people, they see only confusion and randomness which they insist explains EVERYTHING ! . Either they genuinely don't see it, true for some, or they are simply practising Denialism- Contrarianism to replace their inability to evaluate patterns and form their own opinion. Pattern blindness is likely as widespread as colour blindness.
Inventor of the IQ test psychologist Eyesenk proved statistically that the water signs birthdate people are introverts.
The word month is derived from Moonth a 30 day cycle of the moon.The moon lifts oceans, and we are water thus may be influenced in some imperceptible way.
Its hard to see much mechanism in astrology if you are materialist and believe in the defunct gravity mass universe big bang and you exist entirely inside your own skin, as a mere animal.This a crippling mindset. You are likely required to obtain understanding by studying non locality which states that our disconnection from everything else is pure illusion. That all things are actually connected.Which raises the question do you really have freewill? if you keep chasing Libra women it suggests your are not so free willed as you think. Another illusion.The answers will be found in mental planes.Virtually unexplored, which is most of our existence, so far innacessible to objective materialist science.
21 Jul 2010, 23:25
I know what you're saying but if you look at the subtle you can see that yes, we do have mood swings or energy changes "twice a day" and that's if we're "normal" and healthy. In some cases these fluxes are more extreme than in others, the majority of us simply shrug our shoulders (metaphorically) and move on with life... it's no big deal. But it's been known for eons that we go through these daily shifts, which is why the majority of the world's cultures set aside specific times of day (which parallel tide shifts) for down time (Siestas). I doubt "they" know why they do this, only that a common point each day brings about an energy shift... modern/Western society now chooses energy drinks to overcome that daily slump rather than the more innate "shut-down and get quiet" mode.
I cannot properly explain things when it comes to scientific jargon and Ivy league linguistics, I'm a bit more simple and down to earth with things. However, I'm confident that science can and eventually will prove not just the existence of these various subtle influences, but how they do affect all living things.
For several months now I've been developing my own Psychic Services web site (KarmicKruzes.org) in which I touch upon these subtle influences created by the planets and how it is part of the mechanics that "programs" each person at birth, with certain characteristics that connect to their past life karma. My theories and philosophy have a great deal of support within the metaphysical community and bring three key "oracles" together as part of the karmic programming process; astrology, numerology and palmistry (there are others that could be considered but these are the primaries). In each instance we are speaking of subtle influences, but imprints that I honestly believe, science will some day (not too far off on the horizon) prove out... it's already given significant support towards aspects of Palmistry and like it or not, Astrology.
22 Jul 2010, 09:03
So just to clarify that as I said (and you disagreed), science does not agree with the notion that the moon affects people because we are made of water.
22 Jul 2010, 23:42
As you mentioned, the moon's effect is extremely negligable, but even if it wasn't, the effects would be physical rather than mental so it wouldn't have any effect on personality (i.e. astrology). At least, that's what I'm reading.
18 Sep 2012, 05:34
Having contemplated astrology seriously for around 25 years, and interpreting hundreds of charts for friends, acquaintances, and strangers, I can say with certainty that whether it is the information derived from analyzing the chart or the intuitive insight arising from interpreting it, astrology is not nothing.
I started looking at astrology with the assumption that it was complete nonsense. For that to be true, however, it would have to contain only casual correspondences that could be part of the expected range of coincidence. That was not the case. Although there is a degree of ambiguity in a thorough analysis of an astrological chart, because there are several layers of influence which determine each others prominence (like colors that look much brighter when they are adjacent to each other than when they are by themselves), once you are familiar with how to weigh the conflicts, it becomes possible to read a fairly clear and meaningful narrative. It's even clearer when you look at the charts of families. If someone wanted to do a real proof-of-astrology statistical project, I would look to correlations among members of the same immediate family. I have never seen a family whose charts were not powerfully intertwined in extremely sophisticated ways.
The problem with proving astrology is the same problem with proving consciousness - it just doesn't work like that. Subjectivity is not a mechanism of objects, it is the opposite of that. Experiences develop through time like a movie or a play. Stories with characters and themes, repeating archetypes. You don't ask 'how did Batman get into Christian Bale if he was in a comic strip before'.
Astrology may have nothing to do with stars. Planetology is more accurate, or really, archetypal planetology, because what we are looking at is not the hands of a clock with turn gears that we are helplessly strapped to, but themes and influences which have their season. We get hungry at lunch time because of many different factors, subjective and objective, momentary and long term - not because the hands of a clock have magical powers to cause lunch time. The fact remains however, that we can use a clock to tell us what time most people are likely to eat lunch, and then decide for ourselves if the want to go along with that or have lunch at another time.
The bottom line is that all of our clocks and calendars are models or maps. Astrology is just a more precise map, and as a result, time is not collapsed into a one dimensional continuum of before and after, but a complex and literate aesthetic of multiple qualities of times which translate differently from different perspectives (since we emerge at birth our of this context).
If you consider that the relations of the orbiting planets have been around much longer than life on Earth, it doesn't seem so absurd to imagine that these rhythms could be of particular familiarity to everything that has come out of the Earth. On their own scale, the planets are solar neighbors, separated by only a vacuum. Like seasonal fruit and vintage wine, time and place play a key role in the quality of what can be produced. Can a pineapple be grown in the Arctic? It is the same, in a more subtle way, with human identity. Individuals are a mere crest of a wave on the surface of a vast ocean of potential themes. The angles of the planets in relation to each other are only the exterior view of a process of storytelling which we have reduced, in this digital age, to mere duration...which itself is part of a large cycle of epistemology.
It's ok if people don't want to believe in astrology. It's like handedness or gender preference. Not everyone has to know or care about it. It's maybe better that way. For most people, astrology is only going to confuse them and make them look outside themselves to answer questions which might be better left to their own inner wisdom. If you are going to mess with astrology, make sure it's something that really interests you and not just a way to make you feel special. Do a hundred charts of people you know. Then you won't be bothered by people who insist that astrology is idiotic. Of course it seems idiotic. Consciousness would seem idiotic if we weren't experiencing it ourselves first hand.
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