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[SydneyPSIder]

[Misha]

SydneyPSIder wrote:

"wow, control of central Asia, deals have been done in Georgia and Uzbekistan in recent times, even under Obama, this isn't just about a few US-trained Taliban in Afghanistan who are supposedly a hotbed of terrorism then!"

An interesting book which I'm sure you folks on this forum are well aware of is "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski. It is a excellent read in understanding American global hegemony in the Middle East and South Asia. This book was published in 1997 in preparation for what SydneyPSIder rightly points out in the PNAC thesis.


In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
-Franklin Delano Roosevelt

[SydneyPSIder]

14 US bases now surrounding Caspian Sea resources, this youtube just came to me via FB:



plus:

[ProfWag]

[SydneyPSIder]

The comparative reference to 67 intercepts in the 9 months prior to 9/11 has been made -- are you saying all these intercepts were international flights straying off course coming into US airspace from the coast, and that none were domestic flights straying off course? The comparison is made to some 462 intercepts in the 9 months after 9/11, with no reference being made to a fact like 'of course, the previous intercepts were all over water, as that was all NORAD did' -- this would have come out in the testimonial and official report as a convenient excuse for no intercepts, of course -- that the US simply did not track or intercept off course planes on domestic flights. I find this hard to believe, as of course anyone imagining a hijacking for any purpose would include the possibility of a domestic hijacking over land when constructing a model for interception. It is just possible we are talking about coastal intercepts only, but it does not materially change the 9/11 story -- if so, it just provided the planners with a convenient source of confusion and advantage by exploiting a glaring gap in national security.

However, a debunkiing the debunkers argument goes like this:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/inde ... p=10782960

[Misha]

[ProfWag]

[ProfWag]

[SydneyPSIder]

[Misha]

Hi Guys,

Some of you may already be aware the Piers Morgan interview with Jesse Ventura. It well worth watching. Notice the poll when Ventura asks the audience if his points are sensible. Also, I saw this interesting article in the NY Times.

http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2012/09/21 ... -audience/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunda ... h_20120930

[jmtalboo]

Newer 9/11 truth petitions:

http://www.change.org/petitions/preside ... peak-out-2
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http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... itute.html
http://phnxrizing.blogspot.com/2012/07/ ... f-911.html

[Scepcop]

Wow check out this list of 250+ smoking guns of the 9/11 conspiracy. Each one of them is a clickable link to more info. With all this evidence, it'd be insane to deny an inside job conspiracy, which has been proven by all the rules and standards of logic.

http://killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html

[Scepcop]

Check out my new report with 50+ logical conspiracy arguments. It covers 9/11, JFK and the Moon Landings.

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Conspiracies.htm

[SydneyPSIder]

Just rediscovered the claim that one of the plane's tailplanes was seen in service several years later, at 7:49 in the below video:



on Flight 1111, a United Airlines 757, at Chicago O'Hare Airport on 10 April 2003 by David Friedman, a UA employee who records all his flights.

This tends to back up the no planer or partial no planer thesis -- that either no, or possibly one, commercial airliners were destroyed at all. There is a chance the Shanksville PA flight was downed. It's possible around 200 innocent people were herded from several landed planes (mysteriously not even a quarter full each at peak commuter time) into a single plane at Cleveland believing they were being returned to their journey to LA, only to be diverted again back to PA and shot down by the USAF. Alternatively, something else happened. A claim has been made that the hole in the ground in Shanksville was staged (obviously) but that a plane was genuinely shot down and wreckage, bodies, luggage etc were strewn through the area close by. This way it would be possible to recover DNA matches and produced 'genuine fake' DNA match tests I suppose from body parts for all the claimed 9/11 plane victims, for what it's worth.

Note also the Cleveland airport was shut down at that time, with people forced to walk miles on the freeway to get away from the site, and bus drivers being told they would be shot if they departed from their route. Interesting society you've got there, seems it's easy to get away with anything as long as you have a uniform and a gun and invoke 'national security'. The passenger terminals at the supposed arriving point of LA were also shut down, but mysteriously there were no upset or grieving families recorded there at all waiting for their family members to arrive, and nothing seems to have appeared in the press about that since.

The entire youtube is worth watching, it's an excerpt from Loose Change.