Question for "Truthers"

[ProfWag]

What is your take on the current situation in France? I mean, since you don't think that Muslim Extremist flew planes into the WTCs, do you think that the murders in France is some big French government cover-up? Just curious...

[FatFreddy]

If I'd read your post first, I wouldn't have started this thread.
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I don't rule out a false flag operation but it's still too early to tell.

[SydneyPSIder]

Might have been. Looks suspiciously similar to the suspicious '2 brothers from Chechnya' Boston Marathon 'bombing'. There are a few fishy aspects to that one as well, to do with unusual activity from 'Craft' on the day, pictorial evidence, and the fact the kids were not radicalised at all, stayed at home back in Chechnya, etc -- looks to me as though they were paid a small sum by the CIA to be 'budding intelligence operatives' with a cover story, and they would have appreciated the extra money, and then of course they were turned into patsies.

[ProfWag]

You people are unfreakinbelievable. Total disrespect to the families and shamefully ignorant to the real world. If we all listened to what you had to say, the murderers of radical Islamist terrorism will continue to terrorize the world. It's time you wake up and realize that what's happening is a travesty and we need to do something to stop it right now and stop pretending that these events are not what they really are.

[SydneyPSIder]

Who knows? I'm hearing ISIS is a fake, Al Qaeda is a fake. There are reasons they could be false flag organisations. The 'beheading' videos look faked, the supposed journalists and aid workers supposedly beheaded seem like military intelligence spooks to me, and we know they just 'got out' of military service to become journos and aid workers for some reason, and were oft captured. Lucky or unlucky to be captured and let go and recaptured so often? Even orgs like USAid and World Vision are half intelligence operations.

Anyhow, the ISIS/IS/Daesh thing came out of nowhere, it's a highly unlikely scenario. US intelligence thick on the ground everywhere had no idea they were massing and organising for 12 months? And yet these were supposed to be 'Syrian moderates' recruited by John McCain of all people? al Baghdadi snapped wearing a very expensive western wristwatch under his robes. Faked beheading videos. Their videos are too polished, complete with rotating logos. The beheading videos look like they're green screened. Everyone wearing masks, the PLO never used to do that, the last legitimate middle eastern protest organisation I'm aware of. 'ISIS' threatening and provoking superpowers like the US and UK and even Australia rather than keeping their heads down and forming a legitimate state and avoiding attacks -- it's as though they are just begging ppl in western countries to join their respective armies and attack them, they couldn't do a better recruitment job if they tried. Iraqi soldiers were solidly trained by US forces for some 8 years, then just dropped their weapons and ran. They are trained to destroy any materiel rather than have it fall into enemy hands, but they left it all behind. ISIS just happen to be conveniently trained on US weapons also. A tiny ISIS force has somehow routed a much larger and well trained Iraqi army force. Western powers have just been standing by and watching for some reason. The occasional supposed air sortie hits buildings unoccupied for 2 weeks every time. Surely ISIS' greatest enemy in the world would be Israel right next door, but they have said hardly a word against Israel, choosing to bait western superpowers instead to provoke incidents and interventions. All too convenient. Just happens to be the areas the West would like to control, and set Sunnis and Shias off against either with a newly partitioned Iraq and Syria. Just happens to conveniently threaten the Assad regime by other means. All fits into the US plan for middle eastern destabilisation and control.

The Murdoch disinfo machine is talking exactly like profwag about this, creating sensationalist headlines and multi page spreads, turning the deranged actions of a single nutter in Sydney into an organised ISIS attack etc. There's no question in my mind that Murdoch is fully in bed with the Republicans and those who gain to benefit from this, including now his own oil interests in Israel -- he very much got in on the ground floor there somehow...

There's never any aim to these disjointed 'terrorist' attacks, no message, no demands to free X or get out of country Y, nothing. The whole point of 'terrorising' another population is to get them to somehow stop what they are doing in your own sovereign country -- we are seeing no such messages or demands with this current crop of events, going right back to the very obviously faked events and inside job of 9/11.

[ProfWag]

[SydneyPSIder]

[FatFreddy]