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SCEPCOP Forum Scientific Committee to Evaluate PseudoSkeptic Criticism of the Paranormal 2010-11-02T02:59:58+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/feed.php?f=2&t=1478 2010-11-02T02:59:58+08:00 2010-11-02T02:59:58+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17498#p17498 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Eteponge — 02 Nov 2010, 02:59


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2010-11-01T22:49:10+08:00 2010-11-01T22:49:10+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17495#p17495 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Arouet — 01 Nov 2010, 22:49


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2010-11-01T22:22:55+08:00 2010-11-01T22:22:55+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17493#p17493 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 01 Nov 2010, 22:22


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2010-11-01T15:05:16+08:00 2010-11-01T15:05:16+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17491#p17491 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Eteponge — 01 Nov 2010, 15:05


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2010-10-31T04:23:41+08:00 2010-10-31T04:23:41+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17474#p17474 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 31 Oct 2010, 04:23


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2010-10-31T04:21:36+08:00 2010-10-31T04:21:36+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17473#p17473 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]>
"Both shamans I spoke with were clear that the guys who did this ruled the day! As I said, the families gave them no peace, and paid them a pile of dough, before they agreed to do it. That fact (assuming it's true as told) indicates that the families must have known it could be done -- thereby suggesting earlier precedents. Of course, shamanic work goes back tens of thousands of years."

I also brought up how the Shaman in this anecdote misused this gift, stealing those two young men away from their real families to place them in an unfamiliar world with alternate versions of their loved ones, I suggested that the only way that situation could have potentially worked out, was if the Shaman had tapped into a reality where the child had lost both of his parents (as here it was the parents who lost the child), and a reality where the young man had lost his wife and kids (as here it was the wife and kids who lost the young man). In that scenario, both parties from both worlds are mutually grieving, and them reunited together might have taken better hold, as them leaving that other world would not have been as hard, if they suffered a mutual loss. If the reality they were taken from was very similar to our own, it would have been even better, as not much memory variance.

Something tells me that (if true) these Shaman probably could not fine tune their journey, and simply tapped into a random alternate history in the multiverse, grabbed the first alternate versions of those individuals they came across, without any thought of them or their situation or consequences. Hence, why they deeply regretted it afterwards.

Paul Eno responded ...

"I'm not sure it could have worked out in any scenario. It almost seems as though multiverse interaction of any kind needs to be spontaneous to do any good. If it's planned and executed, it seems likely to get messed up - as though there's some missing ingredient."

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2010-10-30T17:41:19+08:00 2010-10-30T17:41:19+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17470#p17470 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Arouet — 30 Oct 2010, 17:41


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2010-10-30T14:46:53+08:00 2010-10-30T14:46:53+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17469#p17469 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Twain Shakespeare — 30 Oct 2010, 14:46


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2010-10-30T04:42:00+08:00 2010-10-30T04:42:00+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17463#p17463 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Arouet — 30 Oct 2010, 04:42


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2010-10-30T04:22:58+08:00 2010-10-30T04:22:58+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17462#p17462 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]>
"Hi, Travis -- When I talk about that on the air I always qualify it by saying that it was heard from "a friend of a friend" 31 years ago in both cases. However, these two guys came across as absolutely solid in their belief of it, both said they had seen the returners with their own eyes and had known the respective Aboriginal and Cree shamans in question. What's in that article is all I know (except for the precise location in Quebec) All I can say is that those two conversations were at the root of my "awakening" to the multiverse perspective, and as far as I can see it has never steered me wrong."

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2010-10-30T00:34:19+08:00 2010-10-30T00:34:19+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17461#p17461 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Arouet — 30 Oct 2010, 00:34


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2010-10-30T00:19:19+08:00 2010-10-30T00:19:19+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17460#p17460 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Eteponge — 30 Oct 2010, 00:19


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2010-10-30T00:19:04+08:00 2010-10-30T00:19:04+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17459#p17459 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by caniswalensis — 30 Oct 2010, 00:19


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2010-10-30T00:02:18+08:00 2010-10-30T00:02:18+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478&p=17458#p17458 <![CDATA[Re: A very intriguing paranormal case]]> Statistics: Posted by Arouet — 30 Oct 2010, 00:02


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