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SCEPCOP Forum Scientific Committee to Evaluate PseudoSkeptic Criticism of the Paranormal 2009-11-07T21:17:43+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/feed.php?f=16&t=632 2009-11-07T21:17:43+08:00 2009-11-07T21:17:43+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=7195#p7195 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]> Statistics: Posted by NinjaPuppy — 07 Nov 2009, 21:17


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2009-11-07T20:49:43+08:00 2009-11-07T20:49:43+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=7193#p7193 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]>
Also has anyone seen Ghost Hunters International? One of there team has a 'Full Spectrum Camera' WTF?

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2009-11-07T19:07:17+08:00 2009-11-07T19:07:17+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=7188#p7188 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]>
I've purchased some of the different electronics used on GH, such as a K2 and a Mel "Electromagnetic Field Radiation Tester" and basically played around with them to see what sets them off. A FLIR is much too expensive for me to purchase so it's not something I can play around with to get some experience with here.

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2009-11-07T08:55:31+08:00 2009-11-07T08:55:31+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=7169#p7169 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]>
Or put it another way if you had a free standing fan heater on the floor and switched it on, and you went near it to wave your arm in a downwards motion in front of the heater. A small amount of heat given off by the fan heater would be dissipated downwards by your arm waving in front of the airflow. But the rest of the heat would rise and dissipate.

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2009-11-05T08:56:59+08:00 2009-11-05T08:56:59+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=7112#p7112 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]>
3) When it reaches the medium and he stretches out his arm to the uppermost part of the heat source. Why when he waves his hands down does it all go down and not part of it dissipating upwards as heat should

This had also made wonder.

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2009-11-05T07:52:23+08:00 2009-11-05T07:52:23+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=7111#p7111 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]>
1) If it is heat, shouldn't it be Red/Orange coloured as you see areas of Red given off by the people in the video representative of body heat
2) Why does it not rise to the ceiling as heat does, but goes across the wall
3) When it reaches the medium and he stretches out his arm to the uppermost part of the heat source. Why when he waves his hands down does it all go down and not part of it dissipating upwards as heat should
4) The length of time that it runs is only several seconds, would a heater on timer/thermostat kick in for that length of time

Just my 2 cents

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2009-11-02T23:25:18+08:00 2009-11-02T23:25:18+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=6887#p6887 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]> - i would say "false positive " ( or wishful thinking ) ??

note that basically the uncooled ones - are not as sensitive to change as the cooled variety - but for portable ( without incurring the national debt ) - uncooled is the best you will do - BUT one of the problems I found with them is they where slow to respond to change and would what i call "flare out " - and that's what i think is happening here - fire fighters require a LOT of training to interpret what they are seeing on the screen with these cameras - so did the TAPS guys just read the manual and off they went ?? - AND don't forget also - like MANY pieces of "ghost hunting equipment " they are using things NOT for the purpose designed - so basically i would say its a question of false positive in the interpretation of the images

i was trained on the monochrome ones mainly - which are much like night shot - as all you really need them for in fire fighting is locating "hot spots " be those seat of fire in dense smoke conditions or inside walls etc - or locating bodies - all of which they work extremely well for

i remember one of the taps shows there was a hand print or something ?? on a locker that they made a big fuss of - another case of "pilot error " methinks

anyways just my opinion as always

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2009-11-02T18:56:51+08:00 2009-11-02T18:56:51+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=6871#p6871 <![CDATA[Re: Ghost Hunters Medium]]>
I watched the segment but I am not sure what 'purple shadow' you specifically refer to. Can you give us a time on the vid for it's appearance?

If you are talking about the unusual rainbow of colors that come up from behind Jason and over to the other guy, IMO it's a forced hot air system (heat) kicking on and the FLIR is picking up the warm air coming out of lower wall ducts and then making it's way around the room.

I have no explanation as to why it suddenly seems to retreat when the other guy moves his arm, but I'm sure that Brett might be able to shed some light on this subject.

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2009-11-02T15:27:47+08:00 2009-11-02T15:27:47+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=632&p=6863#p6863 <![CDATA[Ghost Hunters Medium]]> Statistics: Posted by yellowlawn — 02 Nov 2009, 15:27


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