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SCEPCOP Forum Scientific Committee to Evaluate PseudoSkeptic Criticism of the Paranormal 2012-07-29T16:56:53+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/feed.php?f=14&t=1433 2012-07-29T16:56:53+08:00 2012-07-29T16:56:53+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=26398#p26398 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> None of the content in the video is appreciably more compatible with rational intellect than the others.

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2012-07-29T12:05:17+08:00 2012-07-29T12:05:17+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=26397#p26397 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]>
Do-It-Yourself Deity

What is God?

In an attempt to resolve any disagreement surrounding the meaning of the word "God", TPM has assembled a crack team of "metaphysical engineers" who have devised a new computer-modelling virtual environment in which to test the plausibility of different conceptions of God.

Here's how it works. You are invited to select from the list below the attributes which you believe God must have (or the attributes that a being deserving of the name God must have). Metaphysical engineers will then model this conception of God to check out its plausibility.

Please select from the list below. You may choose as many, or as few, attributes as you wish. Then press the submit button.

Omnipotent (all-powerful, able to do anything)

Omnibenevolent (all-loving)

Omniscient (all-knowing)

The Creator (of all that exists)

The Sustainer (if God ceased to exist, so would everything else)

Perfectly Free

Eternally Existing (will go on and on and on...)

A Personal God (a being with whom one can have a personal relationship)


Twain here, Despite this being a tool for discomforting Christians, this is still a good test of rather a "religion" can be reconcialed with science. Has some flaws tho, because it almost assumes an Abrahamic definition, which it does assume is false, and therefore is desribing a concept of diety unregnizable to most theists. I especially dislike the last point as being prejidicial against sun worshippers and worshippers of nature, idolaters, and people who had repersonal lationships with Elron or Vernon Howell, for example.

By the way, my "scientific theology" is between 80% and 100% correct, and the errors are attributable to the fact certain mathamtical equations are "false" when answered in English. I found that somewhat surprising. I didn't know I had a scientific theology, although I suspected I have actually found a subject matter for ontology. (Mensaing out)

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2012-07-29T11:10:52+08:00 2012-07-29T11:10:52+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=26393#p26393 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]>
In my previous post, I mentioned Hinduism. Hinduism understands children need a Santa Claus, and some adults never grow out of this. Hinduism says such people's spiritual side is best cultivated in a "personal religion" with what atheists would call an "imaginary friend"

The Catholics understand and have incorporated this understanding into their practice. They offer such people Mary and saints.

Most young adults the Hindus fail, recommending a Zen-like concentration on the tasks of daily life and ritual, as do the Catholics. But then, the main spiritual concern of young adults is usually to properly brainwash their own children.

At some point in life, most often once the kids are old enough to ask really uncomfortable questions, people have a tendency to start thinking. Some people actually start thinking as kids. For such people, the Hindus have philosophy. The catholics used to, but have largely sibstituted theology, since Catholicism is less philosophically justifiable than so many alternatives.

Finally, in old age, nearly everyone gets concerned with spiritual questions. For these, the Hindus developed mystical exercises that substituted retirement and health care with voluntary beggery. Caths used to just burn such people at the stake. The point made in the video was, more fuzzily expressed than I have put it here, there are different ways of approaching the divine, and some are more compatible with rational intellect than others. (Most non Abrahamic religions, for example)

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2012-07-27T10:58:13+08:00 2012-07-27T10:58:13+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=26328#p26328 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> Statistics: Posted by critusodem — 27 Jul 2012, 10:58


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2010-10-24T01:01:47+08:00 2010-10-24T01:01:47+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17368#p17368 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]>
This guy is about as skeptical as someone at a tent revival rolling on the floor. I can't buy it. Sorry if that upsets you Win, but I chose to distance myself from this sort of material years ago by looking beyond the packaging and seeing what was really being "sold".

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2010-10-23T20:26:15+08:00 2010-10-23T20:26:15+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17350#p17350 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 23 Oct 2010, 20:26


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2010-10-14T14:32:09+08:00 2010-10-14T14:32:09+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17147#p17147 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> Statistics: Posted by Twain Shakespeare — 14 Oct 2010, 14:32


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2010-10-10T20:26:13+08:00 2010-10-10T20:26:13+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17046#p17046 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> Statistics: Posted by Craig Browning — 10 Oct 2010, 20:26


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2010-10-10T01:48:18+08:00 2010-10-10T01:48:18+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17032#p17032 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 10 Oct 2010, 01:48


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2010-10-10T01:36:09+08:00 2010-10-10T01:36:09+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17030#p17030 <![CDATA[Re: How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]> Statistics: Posted by Craig Browning — 10 Oct 2010, 01:36


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2010-10-10T01:26:46+08:00 2010-10-10T01:26:46+08:00 https://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433&p=17028#p17028 <![CDATA[How to Reconcile Spiritual Experiences with Religion]]>

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