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Could the NDE website you're referring to be www.nderf.org? That is the most comprehensive one I know. It's been around for years.
I think you have a strong left and right brain, a rare combination.
Were you ever a Christian or Atheist when you grew up? What is your religious background?
How many astral planes are there? Is there an infinite number? Do Jesus and Buddha have their own astral planes, where their followers go to? I wonder if they were pre-existing beings or if they were created by the collective belief in them.
Do dreams take place in the astral plane?
Yes, the movie "What Dreams May Come" was one of my favorite movies.
Like you, I've also had the experience of sleep paralysis where once you snap out of it, it starts again when you lie down. Those are very aggravating.
I used to have them a lot, but not so much anymore, after I stopped being afraid of them and tried to take advantage of them
I found that when sleep paralysis happens, if you just let it go and passively watch it without resistance, after a few minutes you will get up naturally from it. And by then, you will feel rejuvenated somehow, as if a calm tranquility came over you. Also, I learned to transform the experience into a lucid flying dream. As soon as I focus on that, the frightening images and sounds go away. Or I can just visualize something else and they go away.
But I wonder though, why the initial state of sleep paralysis involves fear and the feeling of an evil presence. Beside the loud roaring sound, I also hear evil laughter, voices screaming in pain, and even faces spitting and cussing at me in unknown languages. Have you ever experienced that too?
Yes there was a neurologist in that video who was a typical skeptic who never considers any other dimensions. For those types, science is like their religion, they have a dogmatic faith in it and are limited by it too.
Here is a more interesting video though, called "Sleep Paralysis - Ghost Visions". Here in part 3, an experiencer in NY has actually had a priest and his girlfriend see the entity bothering him during sleep paralysis, while they were awake. That is a new one, and one that does not fit the scientific explanation. It also shows an open minded sleep paralysis researcher who says that the scientific hypothesis simply does not fit all the data. (I should add a page to the home page about the skeptical explanations not always fitting all the data too).
I hope you enjoy that one.
I wonder though, if these evil entities you see during sleep paralysis are from the lower astral planes. If so, why does sleep paralysis connect us to such a low astral plane, rather than a higher one?
Yes I've heard of the radio analogy to the brain, that the brain is just the equipment, but not the source of the consciousness, just like a radio is not the source of the sound coming from it.
Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 30 May 2009, 03:57
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I am sorry my last posting was confusing, is there anything I can clarify in it for you?
Regarding NDE. There is a great website online on NDE research and has analyses the most common themes. I don't have the link at hand at the moment. I will need to find it again. While it is true that an individual's experience differs from person to person, there are common themes e.g., there is a life review. This life review takes place in different ways for different people depending on their own beliefs, background and culture. Some will just have their life-review shown to them on a television set, while some will have their life read out loud to them by a scribe. It is evident from this that a real phenomena is taking place, but how it manifets to the individual is based on their own conditioning. The astral plane is not like a physical place, it has both quasi-objective and quasi-subjective characteristics. This means it an actual place in which you can interact, but how it manifests to you is subjective. I think the makers of the film, "What Dreams May Come" understood the astral quite well, as in this film each individual has their own subjective world inside the astral, based on their own thoughts. The higher density planes do not at all behave like our physical plane, for want of a better word, reality becomes more liquid-like the higher you go.
The astral also has places which have been created by thought-forms by other cultures, and they actually exist as quasi-objective places in the astral.
I have had many experiences of sleep paralysis and they are very scary. I have had some where I constantly felt like I was dragged back into sleep by an evil entity, constantly flirting in and out of consciousness. I have succeeded to wake up for a few minutes, and tried to move, only to be dragged back in. This video offers a physicalist neurobiological explanation for this phenomenon, whilst at the same trying to explain all abduction experiences away as sleep paralysis by using the "authority" figure to explain away everything, as if he really knows what he is talking about. In neurophilosophy there is a very influencial and sizable group of such philosopher who want to argue that consciousness and spiritual experiences are nothing more than effects created in the brain. This is based on actual empirical evidence which shows that there are neural correlates to every conscious experience, but this does not mean the neural phenomenon is actually causing the conscious experience. These philosophers do not actually know that the mind is like a transmitter and receivier that interacts with reality. It is an electrochemical crystaline structure(which in turn is just fields of consciousness) that receives and transmits signals and the signal it tunes into becomes its reality(like hopping from one channel to the other) this signal can be interfered with by electrochemical substances, such as drugs, which can cause the mind to jump out of its current channel and enter into other channels. The experiences consciousness has will register as neurological phenomenon in the body because the soul is still connected to the body by the "silver cord" and the body is constantly receiving feeds from the soul, which are processed in the brain. This is why the ears can ring, REM movement can take place, and areas of the brain become stimulated.
Statistics: Posted by Indigo Child — 29 May 2009, 14:00
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I've been watching a lot of videos on YouTube lately about NDE's. They are fascinating, especially when they take place during a flat brainline.
But I wonder, how come not everyone has an NDE when they are clinically dead or near death? And why do people see figures from their own religions? Is it because they are attuned to those astral planes?
I also have this thing called sleep paralysis. Here's a video about it.
These are the kind of sounds you hear during sleep paralysis.
Some say the entities are brain hallucinations. Others say they are demons. What do you think? And why do they have an evil laugh and presence?
Have you ever had sleep paralysis before? I've had them since I was 5 or 6, but not so much anymore.
Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 29 May 2009, 12:33
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I always thought ATS was a pro paranormal forum. Isn't it? Or maybe it's only pro conspiracy theory.
Statistics: Posted by Scepcop — 27 May 2009, 23:26
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One thing I can tell you now though are that my posts are 'not' in ATS - are you kidding? That's the last place I would ever post them. May posts are in the UFO Casebook forum and my forum . My screen name is alien_contactee in my forum.
No way on ATS. ATS won't even get a sentence from me about my experiences. I'm not one to bang my head up against the wall, which is what you do in there if you post personal experiences. And then there's the labeling. I don't want to be labeled. There's much better forums to visit.
Statistics: Posted by Atrueoriginall — 27 May 2009, 10:49
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