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Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 24 Jul 2009, 12:03

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Franc28 » 24 Jul 2009, 16:09

How dare you go against the consensus. You must therefore be some kind of quack. Next you're gonna tell us that secondhand smoke isn't as damageable as they say, or that flouride in water doesn't improve dental health. Doubt is a slippery slope straight to HELL!

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby jakesteele » 26 Jul 2009, 08:44

I just recently posted a question on Straight Dope in their questions thread. I told them I was writing a college paper about 911 pertaining specifically to the qualifications of the experts on both sides. I mentioned that all of the Patriots 911 and the Truth Movement, etc., were posted on their sites. However, I was unable to find a complete list of all of Popular Mechanics experts they used to 'debunk' the CT.

I asked them a simple question: PM says the consulted with "over 300" experts in the various fields and said the following were particularily helpful...they had listed somewhre around 60 to 70 people, many of which were journalists and other seemingly unrelated fields. I then asked them where I could find a complete list of the "over 300" experts. Gues what? I was met with hostility and agressively attacked as being a CTer and they tried to railroad the post into something way beyond a Straw Man. Will wonders ever cease. :roll:
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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 26 Jul 2009, 12:17

Why don't you send the question to Cecil Adams himself? His email is on the site. He seems a lot more calm and level headed than his forum posters, who are vicious and bullying.
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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 26 Jul 2009, 13:00

Hey get this. When I brought up this post to some skeptics on my mailing list, they argued that these two experienced pilots quoted were only trained to fly aircraft safely and not to do kamikaze maneuvers, and that therefore these pilots were not qualified to assess whether Flight 77's kamikaze maneuvers were possible or not. Then they said that only aircraft engineers can assess an aircraft's ability to do certain maneuvers, and not the pilots themselves.

Is that the stupidest thing you ever heard or what?

So I ask these skeptics what qualifications they have in aviation maneuvers and why their opinion is more valid than pilots with 40+ years of experience. They offered no credentials or qualifications. So I laughed and said,

"Get real! Who do you think people would rather believe, pilots with 40+ years of real life experience flying various aircraft, including jet fighters and airliners, or some skeptic BSing behind a keyboard making up shit as he goes along?! Gimme a break!"

How ridiculous can they get?! And they call themselves "rational"? LOL

So then I ask them for a list of aircraft engineers who say that Flight 77's maneuvers were possible, engineers that are not affiliated with the government or are in danger of losing their jobs for speaking freely. They couldn't come up with any either.

Why do these guys have no sense of humility? Sheesh. They act like know-it-alls, even in areas they are not qualified in at all.
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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby jakesteele » 26 Jul 2009, 14:52

Debunkers think all UFO photos are fake,
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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby skeprogue » 26 Jul 2009, 15:16

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jul 2009, 01:44

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jul 2009, 02:01

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby skeprogue » 27 Jul 2009, 09:52

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 30 Jul 2009, 23:00

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Re: Skeptics, what's your take on these expert statements?

Postby Scepcop » 30 Jul 2009, 23:02

Hey skeprogue,
Do you see any plane debris in these photos? Where's the WINGS????????????????

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001 ... 14a_hr.jpg

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Sep2001 ... 39c_hr.jpg
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