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WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Discussions about the James Randi Educational Foundation and its Million Dollar Challenge.
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WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby Eteponge » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:15 am


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I haven't banned anybody yet (well except for one, for putting on his troll face and not cooperating at all.) I agreed to be very tolerant, give plenty of warnings, etc, to *all sides* of the debate and discussion, when I became moderator, and that's why I've been lax on banning people. I'll let Skeptics and Believers say what they want, as long as it remains civil enough.

EDIT: Insults are unavoidable in these debates / discussions it seems. Everyone says offensive things in the heat of the moment. So, I'm revising this topic to state that mainly unapologetic extreme libel statements (that obviously cross the line) And SPAMMING (and non-cooperation when warned and addressed by the Moderator) are bannable. And this if the person isn't going to apologize, cooperate, calm down, Etc, when warned, that will be the ban.

Hostile / Obvious Flame War threads will still be locked though, even if the person apologizes.

Here's what needs to be calmed down ...

* The Professor - Stop making Randi attack threads, stop making slanderous accusations against Randi that you cannot back up with valid evidence, don't post anything else that you can't back up with valid evidence either, stop taunting and harassing the skeptics, and stop responding to their attacks with more attacks. You need to focus on your MDC rejection, your alleged paranormal claims, and your protocols. Not this Randi / Skeptic attack tirade.

* Skeptics / Debunkers - Stop calling his daughter a nutcase, a mental basket case, a crack house addict, etc, unless you have valid evidence of this beyond insults of course, and even if you do, that's not appropriate terms to use towards ANYONE'S daughter, nor is dragging someone's family into a flame war appropriate. And stop responding to his attacks with more attacks.
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby ciscop » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:17 am



i would love if the professor focus on his paranormal claims
since he doesnt claim to have any
he will jump that question
ask him and you will see

:lol: :lol: :D :D
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby The Professor » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:04 am



I have questions ... That's how the majority of my Threads begin ..... With questions.

Simple questions!!!!!!

Sorry folks don't like the answers.

I have never brought others family member into question or called these young ones awful names.
And I never will.

I am shocked that others feel it is necessary to do so !

Just to try to win a fight????

I agree it is a horrible thing to do and I promise I never will!!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSED TO TEST FOR A MILLION DOLLARS

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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby ciscop » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:13 am



well so far you related jref to nambla, call him a pedophile and wishing him death
you also made threats to many of us

you are a maniac
you shouldnt be around kids
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby The Professor » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:58 am



ciscop wrote:well so far you related jref to nambla, call him a pedophile and wishing him death
you also made threats to many of us

you are a maniac
you shouldnt be around kids


WHERE IS YOUR PROOF!!!!!

Wasn't this what you were supposed to STOP !!!!

Looks like you've broken the rules already !!!!!!
(Name calling and false accusations .... both in one sentence)
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby ciscop » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:03 pm



False accusations?
which one? you did evrything i said
you also stalked criss when you went to england
that will make you a maniac
and maniacs shouldnt be close to kids

and eteponge did said we should stay away from your daughter's topic so we did

We are all waiting for evidence that supports your EVP claims
common dave!!
you care more about slandering randi that you care about building a case for your own claims
thats a tell that you are bluffing, you are just a magician with no capacity to produce evp
:D are you catching up dave? not even in paranormal forums you find people railling up behind you
:D
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby Azrael » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:15 pm



The Professor wrote:I have questions ... That's how the majority of my Threads begin ..... With questions.

Simple questions!!!!!!

Sorry folks don't like the answers.

That folks being you. You have been given answers you just don't like them.

I have never brought others family member into question or called these young ones awful names.
And I never will.

I am shocked that others feel it is necessary to do so !

Just to try to win a fight????

I agree it is a horrible thing to do and I promise I never will!!!!


Instead you contact Magicseen and you claim Crimestoppers with ludicurous allegations,attemtping to smear my character(and failing)and you also went to guerilla Magic((Chirs) place of work uninvited.
No you just call old men names and accuse members on here of having multiple ID's,kidnap and other loony statements.
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby Eteponge » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:04 pm



Actually, it seems you can't really leave insults out of heated topics these days, so I'll revise this topic and only say, unapologetic "LIBEL" stuff is really bannable, (like the daughter remarks or calling Randi a pedophile) are ban material, as well as bad form like wishing death on a skeptic, and only if the person does not go back on that statement when warned. Everyone says things in the heat of the moment. I'll be a bit more tolerant to both sides.

As for the guy I banned earlier today, it was because he was so hostile that he wouldn't even apologize or cooperate at all when warned, and called me a "Dummy" rather than calming down, being more coherent, and being nicer. That's why he was so quickly banned.

Dave and the Skeptics at least will PM me apologizing and telling me they will try to be nicer, etc, and both sides make good discussion here. So, I'm more tolerant.
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby NinjaPuppy » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:37 pm



Eteponge wrote:Actually, it seems you can't really leave insults out of heated topics these days, so I'll revise this topic and only say, unapologetic "LIBEL" stuff is really bannable, (like the daughter remarks or calling Randi a pedophile) are ban material, as well as bad form like wishing death on a skeptic, and only if the person does not go back on that statement when warned. Everyone says things in the heat of the moment. I'll be a bit more tolerant to both sides.


It's just my opinion but I must say that the skeptics have taken the time to heed the warnings and have approached certain hot topics in a very educated and civil manner. Their responses to the constant allegations over in the JREF section shows excellent control on their part yet I see nothing changed or answered from the opposite opinions or posts from the Professor. It's nothing more than a potential smelly can of worms just waiting to be reopened every time a new member from either side joins this forum.

May I ask that the Professor be asked to drop this personal vendetta against JREF and/or Randi on this forum until such time as he is able to produce some proof other than his personal opinion or innuendo and all currently active topics going around in circles be locked or at least dropped to the lower half of the list?

As for the guy I banned earlier today, it was because he was so hostile that he wouldn't even apologize or cooperate at all when warned, and called me a "Dummy" rather than calming down, being more coherent, and being nicer. That's why he was so quickly banned.


He was another can of worms all together. Your swift decision on that person was very much appreciated.

Dave and the Skeptics at least will PM me apologizing and telling me they will try to be nicer, etc, and both sides make good discussion here. So, I'm more tolerant.


Yes they do. However, some of the discussions/topics don't seem to fall into a 'good' discussion category and seem to be populated by a small group of members who rarely have much to say on anything else in the SCEPCOP forum. One or two of those topics are not much more than personal soapboxes and whipping posts. Perhaps if others here can be polled to add their opinions, some of the suspect topics can be easily culled and a mutual agreement reached for future situations that may arise?

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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby Purple Scissor » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:43 pm



Can't you just delete things like "Atheists are the cause of 911 - treat them accordingly" ? It should not even be on there, even if no one responded
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby Kevin Kane » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:02 am



Please decide whether this forum is pro-skeptic or anti-skeptic, critical of skepticism, because I WILL NOT ACCEPT DOUBLE STANDARDS!

Do me a favor:

Do not alllow skeptics to control a board devoted to anti-skepticism.
Do not allow skeptics to control conversations.
Do not allow skeptics to insult non-skeptics.
Do not allow skeptics to break the rules of the forum.

It's not my job to keep ciscop in check. That's your job.

And now you're deleting my opinions!? WTF!

If you want to protect James Randi from people's opinions, how about protecting the people who are critical of James Randi from similar or worse opinions? Can you do that?

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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby ciscop » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:25 pm



Kevin Kane wrote:Please decide whether this forum is pro-skeptic or anti-skeptic, critical of skepticism, because I WILL NOT ACCEPT DOUBLE STANDARDS!

Do me a favor:

Do not alllow skeptics to control a board devoted to anti-skepticism.
Do not allow skeptics to control conversations.
Do not allow skeptics to insult non-skeptics.
Do not allow skeptics to break the rules of the forum.

It's not my job to keep ciscop in check. That's your job.

And now you're deleting my opinions!? WTF!

If you want to protect James Randi from people's opinions, how about protecting the people who are critical of James Randi from similar or worse opinions? Can you do that?


i have been a long term member of this board
:-D

and you can go ahead and debate me
i just reduce to your level since you cant seem to make logic, congruent nor rational comments
so i laugh at you
you are funny
my very Special friend
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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby NinjaPuppy » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:31 pm



Kevin Kane wrote:Please decide whether this forum is pro-skeptic or anti-skeptic, critical of skepticism, because I WILL NOT ACCEPT DOUBLE STANDARDS!

Do me a favor:

Do not alllow skeptics to control a board devoted to anti-skepticism.
Do not allow skeptics to control conversations.
Do not allow skeptics to insult non-skeptics.
Do not allow skeptics to break the rules of the forum.

It's not my job to keep ciscop in check. That's your job.

And now you're deleting my opinions!? WTF!

If you want to protect James Randi from people's opinions, how about protecting the people who are critical of James Randi from similar or worse opinions? Can you do that?

Kevin - Perhaps this will help: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=802

For the record, it's not my job to keep anyone in check on this forum. SCEPCOP - aka: debunkingskeptics.com was designed by Winston Wu as a forum with very few absolute rules. It is a place to discuss issues related to the paranormal and other related subjects. My job is to moderate the forum, which includes deleting snippets that contain name calling, inflamatory information or personal information posted about members. If your opinion was worded in such a way that it might be construed as highly inflamatory, then it's outta here! Your opinion of Mr. Randi or every skeptic on the face of the earth is certainly valid but it also can be considered slander if worded poorly.

Skeptics do not control this forum or the conversations. However, they do strike back when personally provoked or insulted. I'm sure that you would react the same way. Perhaps if you debate the issues and not the person, you will find that some skeptics can be very thought provoking and may have something to offer. Besides, if Ciscop and ProfWag leave, it's just you and me kid. Things have been pretty slow around here lately.

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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby ProfWag » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:32 pm



Kevin Kane wrote:
Do not alllow skeptics to control a board devoted to anti-skepticism.
Do not allow skeptics to control conversations.
Do not allow skeptics to insult non-skeptics.
Do not allow skeptics to break the rules of the forum.

I don't necessarily disagree with you on the first one, though even the JREF forum has non-skeptics who post and some have very good inputs and conversations actually.
The second one is pretty much the same as the first, wouldn't you say?
Is it okay for non-skeptics to insult skeptics, but not the other way around?
Is it okay for non-skeptics to break the rules of the forum, but not the other way around?

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Re: WARNING: The Behavior Here Has To Change

Postby Kevin Kane » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:51 am



Let me put it a different way. I don't want skeptic guarddogs chasing me around, barking obscenities at me. I don't want to pet them. I don't want them slobbering on me. They aren't cute but filthy currs. Put a leash on them, put a muzzle on them. And clean up their mess. Skeptic droppings everywhere. It's unsanitary in here. Not safe for non-skeptics or anti-skeptics. I don't want to be near skeptic poop and noise.

I'll come back if these conditions are met, but I am out of here.

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