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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Misha » 26 Oct 2012, 04:40

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 26 Oct 2012, 04:49

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Misha » 26 Oct 2012, 06:50

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 26 Oct 2012, 07:01

Bit of a catch-22! You may have reliable evidence that you can't disclose, but hard for me to just take it on faith that its there and correctly interpreted.
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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Misha » 26 Oct 2012, 07:28

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 26 Oct 2012, 08:24

I'm curious though. What stops someone like you - who believes he has rock solid evidence about aliens on this planet - from blowing the lid on it? Or going through wiki-leaks or some other venue?
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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Misha » 26 Oct 2012, 18:17

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 26 Oct 2012, 20:16

ok - guess we gotta leave it at that! Unfortunately from my pespective it leaves a pretty shaky ground to base belief on.
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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Misha » 26 Oct 2012, 20:37

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 26 Oct 2012, 22:28

I'm sorry, i don't know what to do with that comment. Controvercial paradigm-shifting ideas have been introduced, rejected, debated, reformed, accepted all throughout history. Some people might freak out if they knew aliens were here, others would accept it gladly, still others wouldn't give a damn. If the aliens are not a thret the panic will die down. If they are a threat the panic may be justified and the threat must be addressed. The argument about waiting for "the public" to be ready doesn't make any sense. The public is a pretty big group!

I get arguments of national security justifying secrecy. But not "we tried to tell them but they wouldn't listen." You don't have an automatic right to have people accept what you believe. If it is important, then you should look for ways to find more convincing evidence.

You've now switched to "we" incidentally, rather than referring to the people who you said told you of this. I'm not sure who "you" are purporting yourself to be - perhaps you could elaborate?
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Re: Simple questions on UFO

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 27 Oct 2012, 07:50

My suggestion though if you're not prepared to talk in detail about something, maybe don't bother bringing it up in the first place!
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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Misha » 27 Oct 2012, 08:51

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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby Arouet » 27 Oct 2012, 11:14

I'm just saying that its a little jerky to come in and say: "I've got all this evidence of so-and-so but I'm not going to tell you 'cause its top secret"

If its so important to national security for people not to know, why even hint at it in the first place?
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Re: Simple questions on UFO

Postby SydneyPSIder » 27 Oct 2012, 18:22

From a totally different perspective, I have doubts about ET contact by 'govts' for the simple reason that the US govt is not acting as though it has access to any kind of technology transfer by more intelligent beings -- there is an obsessive focus by the US govt on gaining control of the world's remaining hydrocarbon resources, particularly trying to encircle Caspian Sea resources and prevent China and Russia and India from getting those reserves, barging into the Middle East, attempting to corrupt and control or overthrow regimes, etc. These are not the actions of a govt that knows it has access to amazing new energy sources that would allow interstellar travel, for instance. These are the actions of a people scrabbling to control existing known energy reserves.
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