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The Psychology of the Skeptic

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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby ProfWag » 15 Oct 2011, 02:03

Craig Browning wrote:... Skeptics NEVER stop and consider how much they wreck lives, cause horrid psychological and emotional damage...

Yes, I, too, would be curious as to how skeptics wreck lives and cause horrid psychological and emotional damage.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby craig weiler » 15 Oct 2011, 07:45

Craig is right. I have never seen a skeptic stop and consider the emotional and psychological damage they cause.

All you need to do damage is have a highly creative and sensitive child and have an authority figure adult who they look up to tell them them that none of the psychic stuff is real. Presto chango, one wrecked life.

No one who is not highly sensitive themselves can really understand why this happens so quickly and does so much damage over such a long period of time. Those who are highly sensitive understand all too well.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Craig Browning » 15 Oct 2011, 19:13

craig weiler wrote:Craig is right. I have never seen a skeptic stop and consider the emotional and psychological damage they cause.

All you need to do damage is have a highly creative and sensitive child and have an authority figure adult who they look up to tell them them that none of the psychic stuff is real. Presto chango, one wrecked life.

No one who is not highly sensitive themselves can really understand why this happens so quickly and does so much damage over such a long period of time. Those who are highly sensitive understand all too well.


I'll take that a step or two further here. . . the number of talented kids, such as I, that were forced to suppress their abilities when younger and even walked through exorcisms and other insane rituals for chasing the devil out of the poor child rather than seeking understanding and more importantly, nurturing the child and helping them understand their abilities, how to use them, etc. How it was in times very long ago and yet, known and still practiced within a handful of "family" groups.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 15 Oct 2011, 20:46

yeah, I HATE when skeptics put people through exorcisms and other insane rituals for chasing the devil out! We really need to get them to stop doing that!
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby ProfWag » 15 Oct 2011, 20:51

craig weiler wrote:All you need to do damage is have a highly creative and sensitive child and have an authority figure adult who they look up to tell them them that none of the psychic stuff is real. Presto chango, one wrecked life.


Or, conversly, if that adult was right then presto chango, at least one saved life, and maybe more...
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby craig weiler » 15 Oct 2011, 23:23

ProfWag,
Or, conversly, if that adult was right then presto chango, at least one saved life, and maybe more...


My experience, plus other people's, most of which come from personal experiences that people relate to me on my blog, is that people fare much worse when they are psychic, but grow up with a skeptical outlook. Many report migraine headaches, depression, anxiety and other mental health issues. These issues tend to lessen or go away when these people accept their psychic ability as real. The internal conflict can be quite harmful.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby ProfWag » 16 Oct 2011, 02:10

craig weiler wrote:ProfWag,
Or, conversly, if that adult was right then presto chango, at least one saved life, and maybe more...


My experience, plus other people's, most of which come from personal experiences that people relate to me on my blog, is that people fare much worse when they are psychic, but grow up with a skeptical outlook. Many report migraine headaches, depression, anxiety and other mental health issues. These issues tend to lessen or go away when these people accept their psychic ability as real. The internal conflict can be quite harmful.

Fair enough since I don't have the personal experience angle with this one.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby NinjaPuppy » 16 Oct 2011, 19:35

Arouet wrote:yeah, I HATE when skeptics put people through exorcisms and other insane rituals for chasing the devil out! We really need to get them to stop doing that!

I wouldn't say that it's skeptics that do this, it's believers. And... it's more common than you think.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Craig Browning » 17 Oct 2011, 01:24

Arouet wrote:yeah, I HATE when skeptics put people through exorcisms and other insane rituals for chasing the devil out! We really need to get them to stop doing that!


Taken out of context, but I believe you know that. I was referring to how society suppresses and torments young people that show actual gifts.

That book I keep bringing up is but one source that shows how children were raised in "psychic homes" -- in environments in which such abilities were recognized early on and nurtured rather than punished, which is the more common thing in our "christian" world.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 17 Oct 2011, 02:05

Actually, the context was the damage that skeptics do and the example you gave had nothing to do with skeptics.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby craig weiler » 17 Oct 2011, 07:51

Trying to teach a psychic child that they don't really have a gift is a form of exorcism. It is as much based on belief as what the church does.
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby meryem » 07 Nov 2011, 19:34

Most skeptics to me appears like close brains to accept argument against their most loved and close to heart belief. They without giving a single thought to what believers are saying tend to speak their hate for the psychics to feel themselves happy with the pleasure over it...
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Arouet » 07 Nov 2011, 19:54

Do you think generalizing a large group of people is open minded?
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Jayhawker30 » 07 Nov 2011, 23:04

I might call it efficient.

Then again, so was the holocaust...
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Re: The Psychology of the Skeptic

Postby Craig Browning » 08 Nov 2011, 23:57

Arouet wrote:Do you think generalizing a large group of people is open minded?


Hmm... how open minded are you when you meet someone claiming to be a Psychic?

I know I meet such claims with great suspicion and I am a working psychic. :lol:

We're human beings and as such we put up walls quickly when certain types of issues or people enter our environment. The first time I got on a plane following 9/11 and saw Muslims boarding as well you better believe I had some high drama going on in my head. . . I still do even though I can dismiss such bias with a bit of logic. . . I've had far more pleasant and fun encounters with Islamic folk than not. . . I tend to be far more afraid of WASP that put on airs of honesty and supposed purity.

When I meet a "skeptic" in today's world I have to take them with a grain of salt in that the majority that embrace that title haven't a clue as to what it really means let alone how it is being used as an antheme -- a cover-all POV for those that encourage Atheism to the extreme but are unwilling to accept that they are Baptist when it comes to their actions.
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