Discuss Conspiracies and Cover Ups - e.g. 9/11 Truth, JFK Assassination, New World Order, Roswell, Moon Hoax, Secret Societies, etc. whatever conspiracy floats your boat.
by ciscop » 07 Apr 2010, 14:17
dude.. you have a psi wheel and believe youtube videos of pk are real
any scientific credentials you think you have are invalidaded thru that just same boring nonsense from your camp i know the paranormal is exciting i have a big library on it i was obsessed with all that stuff before discovering i could fake it and realizing most people on the field are just gullible, innocent and in some cases.. just stupid
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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by NucleicAcid » 07 Apr 2010, 23:33
Hey, you there. Yes, you. If what I say sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown (Wah wahh woohh wuh waah), then you should try college. It's fun, and only costs you your soul and several tens of thousands of dollars. “I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven“ - Richard Wiseman Let's make directional hypotheses, test them repeatedly, replicate experiments, and publish results! Yay, science!
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by ProfWag » 07 Apr 2010, 23:41
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by NucleicAcid » 08 Apr 2010, 00:14
It's cool I was just intrigued from a psychology point of view because I'm super defensive myself.
Hey, you there. Yes, you. If what I say sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown (Wah wahh woohh wuh waah), then you should try college. It's fun, and only costs you your soul and several tens of thousands of dollars. “I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven“ - Richard Wiseman Let's make directional hypotheses, test them repeatedly, replicate experiments, and publish results! Yay, science!
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by ProfWag » 08 Apr 2010, 01:55
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by NucleicAcid » 08 Apr 2010, 02:13
This one is not fake. It's not wind. There is a possibility that a vibration knocked it over, but it is unlikely, as the pen is on a solid oak desk.
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Hey, you there. Yes, you. If what I say sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown (Wah wahh woohh wuh waah), then you should try college. It's fun, and only costs you your soul and several tens of thousands of dollars. “I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven“ - Richard Wiseman Let's make directional hypotheses, test them repeatedly, replicate experiments, and publish results! Yay, science!
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by ProfWag » 08 Apr 2010, 04:12
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by NucleicAcid » 08 Apr 2010, 04:40
What the hell do you mean? I know for a FACT it's not faked. Would you like to know how I know with 100% certainty? Ask me, ProfWag, how I know it's not fake.
(and vibration is very unlikely)
Ask me how I know vibration didn't do it.
Hey, you there. Yes, you. If what I say sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown (Wah wahh woohh wuh waah), then you should try college. It's fun, and only costs you your soul and several tens of thousands of dollars. “I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven“ - Richard Wiseman Let's make directional hypotheses, test them repeatedly, replicate experiments, and publish results! Yay, science!
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by ciscop » 08 Apr 2010, 04:47
This is also not fake.. there´s a possibility he is using wires and the moving background makes it impossible for us to focus and see them.. but nah it´s not fake
ask me how i know is not fake!
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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by NucleicAcid » 08 Apr 2010, 04:50
You asked for a video of telekinesis that is not fake or a magic trick. I showed you a video of that description.
I'm in that room right now. That's my close friend. He's done several times before, including in front of me. I've set the pen on the desk and whacked it in all sorts of ways, blown air at it, and it takes a good deal of force for it to fall over by happenstance. But it's certain that it is not fake, magic trick, gimmick, invisible thread, air blowing, or anything intentionally done doing physical means.
And I am curious about your semantics. How is that not fake? It's deliberately a magic trick. Magic trick = fake.
Hey, you there. Yes, you. If what I say sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown (Wah wahh woohh wuh waah), then you should try college. It's fun, and only costs you your soul and several tens of thousands of dollars. “I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven“ - Richard Wiseman Let's make directional hypotheses, test them repeatedly, replicate experiments, and publish results! Yay, science!
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by ciscop » 08 Apr 2010, 05:48
what?!?!?1 is not fake!! i know it in my heart cause i saw him 3 TIMES ! hahahaha just because you failed to see it doesnt translate to IS GOTTA BE real look at this how do you think he is doing it? it´s not invisible thread, the nut and the bolt are not gimmicked.. yet there´s something just because you dont know, it doesnt mean is real it just mean you didnt see it you dont really know what to look for to avoid trickery that´s my whole point
For every person who reads this valuable book there are hundreds of naïve souls who would prefer to have their spines tingled by a sensational but worthless potboiler by some hack journalist of the paranormal. You who now read these sentences join a small but wiser minority. Martin Gaardner (Psychology of the Psychic)
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by NucleicAcid » 08 Apr 2010, 06:34
Hey, you there. Yes, you. If what I say sounds like the teacher from Charlie Brown (Wah wahh woohh wuh waah), then you should try college. It's fun, and only costs you your soul and several tens of thousands of dollars. “I agree that by the standards of any other area of science that remote viewing is proven“ - Richard Wiseman Let's make directional hypotheses, test them repeatedly, replicate experiments, and publish results! Yay, science!
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by ciscop » 08 Apr 2010, 07:38
it isnt fake, we dont know what is that but is not TK that´s would be the ULTIMATE possible explanation since science has no room for tk at the moment, lets rule out the simple explanation first something you didnt see or spotted. friends can lie, your senses arent perfect (nor nobody)
there´s plenty more things that could have happened
now.. i just did that experiment here in the office the pen just fell.. it was in another desk but it happened after 10minutes.. i actually forgot i put it there.. so could it be that your friend is tricking me or that there was air movement? i just know the pen just felt.. it was actually kind of funny
in your case, like i said you dont know what to look for just like the baboons, i mean parapsychologist that studied Uri or the ones that studied banachek and john edwards that didnt know they were getting tricked by master magicians.. really dont rule out trickery
or simple explanations my pen just falled, yet nobody entered the office it was kind of cool.. did the ink went down thus making the pen fall?.. i dont know, it was cool
but TK is the ultimate explanation try it again.. put a different kind of pen with a wider base also.. why a pen? he could actually move anything isnt it? or those is gotta be something that is balancing so if it falls he gets to say he did it?
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by NucleicAcid » 08 Apr 2010, 09:18
Well of course, obviously all those things are true. Except trickery.
But my point is, Prof Wag asked for a video of telekinesis that isn't fake. I provided one that I believed to the best of my knowledge to not be fake. You have to start somewhere. If it were one pen, once, then it's probably a fluke. Twice, sure. Several pens, also screwdrivers, dumbbells, geiger counters, and the infamous psi wheel, well now you're building an evidence case. Phenomena often don't have a known mechanism until after they are established.
If you're going to ask "Show me a video that isn't fake" and then promptly declare all videos that are shown are fake, then what is the point? But you asked for one in good faith, and that's what I gave. Otherwise, you're all just pseudoskeptics, antithetical to the whole point of this forum, and a waste of everyone's time.
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by Nostradamus » 08 Apr 2010, 10:07
Scimitars were not available - beware January 19, 2038 is upon us.
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