Daz - Remote Viewing Test

[ciscop]

hahahaha
yes im childish and
that´s why you are not doing the test proposed on this forum nor take any other that would prove valuable
No, you are not taking the test because you know that you will fail miserably
GET REAL, you are no tricking anybody, you can go and say as many lame excuses as you want
but it is not because im childish and like to make fun of dumbness
is because YOU CANT DO what you say you can
otherwise you´ll take every test in the world and take that million of that bearded gay magician, but.. because you cant.. your only resource is lame excuses and say.. ¨i already prove it with my links, my own tests, in my bedroom... you can trust me, i did it! ¨..
sorry for not trusting your word, in regards the paranormal, i know many fakers (i play one on stage)

you are just like that black kid on Mystery Men with Ben Stiller..
¨I can become invisible, as long as nobody sees me becoming invisible, nor even me¨... how dumb is that..

[NinjaPuppy]

Hey Ciscop..... lighten up please.

[dazsmith]

hahahaha
yes im childish and
that´s why you are not doing the test proposed on this forum nor take any other that would prove valuable
No, you are not taking the test because you know that you will fail miserably
GET REAL, you are no tricking anybody, you can go and say as many lame excuses as you want
but it is not because im childish and like to make fun of dumbness
is because YOU CANT DO what you say you can
otherwise you´ll take every test in the world and take that million of that bearded gay magician, but.. because you cant.. your only resource is lame excuses and say.. ¨i already prove it with my links, my own tests, in my bedroom... you can trust me, i did it! ¨..
sorry for not trusting your word, in regards the paranormal, i know many fakers (i play one on stage)

There are no excuses when the environment is adult and conducive then I have taken tests - I did a public test for the Paracast radio show:
http://www.cosmicspoon.com/blog/labels/titanic.html

I wont do tests for people who don't appreciate it and who don't act in the proper and according manner.

All the best..

Daz

[ciscop]

lame excuses coming from a paranormalist
isnt that weird?



hey daz
one time i scored over 200 while bowling
that means i am a great bowler?

nah.. i suck at bowling, i hardly score anything above 100..
that was a lucky day, we all have those days where we do awesome, you only provide the results were you have hits (mostly lowsy ones) ,
you dont want people to see your mistakes..
just like the results you report
thats so boring

[ciscop]

Hey Ciscop..... lighten up please.

oh! i am having a great day

i love seeing paranormalist run away
is so funny how they chicken out

now we know the true face of daz

[Craig Browning]

The money grabbing also happens when people offer so-called medications to the desperate even if the medicines are ineffective, or even harmful.

In the spring of 2003 I had a rather serious mental/emotional melt-down. In the process of "getting better" I went through several doctors and counselors because I refused to work with those that reflexively toss you a pill and tell you "this will fix it"... you'd think an MD would understand that band-aids don't heal

This is the problem however, our hypochondria driven culture has been multiplied as the result of drug advertising on Tv and massive ads in publications. Though some of the "Payola" has been curbed, medical professionals still see various spiffs from pharmaceutical companies including those special "seminars" and "work shops" that "educate" them about using this or that elixir.

One of the larger, more politically influential Mental Health corporations here in town has a horrid, yet comical reputation; you can identify the majority of their clients because they walk about town like Zombies... what we referred to back in the 80's as the Thorazine Shuffle.

Understand that I'm all for research & development of all fields... I'm a gadget junkie and because of my various health issues (3 primary "Chronic" conditions) I'm always looking at alternative treatments but likewise interaction issues, common side-effects (especially those being "suppressed"... you'd be amazed the number of back-stories out there on various treatments deemed "safe" by the AMA/FDA that are putting people through hell and back and yet, their voices aren't being heard... or not until several years and lots of damage have taken toll... and of course, the corporation's share holders have seen a huge return on their investment )

The problem is the Commercialism/Capitalist culture now extant on a global level has detoured science as well as business in ways that make "the bottom line" more important that the idea of humanitarianism and being their to "heal" and support "the people". If this weren't so, especially when it comes to medicine and the U.S. (in particular) we'd not seen the rhetoric and fall-out that's been seen around the Health Care proposals put forth during the Clinton era as well as the recent Obama obsession (which is grossly lacking... even harmful at this point).

Not all science is evil or even bought & paid for... sadly however, the more honest elements within the science community are limited in today's world and all too frequently such researchers are ostracized because they won't "play ball" in ways defined by the financial world... those that hold and pull the purse (research funding) strings.

This is a very sad situation but one we cannot ignore or negate. It's a valid and tangible reality that has cost the world significantly, when it comes to the sense of neutrality and "honesty" science and "intellectualism" once knew... even as recently as a century back.

[dazsmith]

Daz, please note that my post was in response to Craig's. Not yours.
However, you have posted links, which are appreciated, but they do not begin to offer proof as you say. Some of it is interesting and may include your evidence, but it's far from proof.

As i said earlier accurately state what you require as proof and I will see what I can do - as I said I have access to over 30years of RV work both done privately and in the lab for the CIA/DIA , including many experiments with thousands of blind trials , most peer reviewed.

what do you want as proof?

Daz

[ciscop]

do a test here
for us

NP could be the judge

[ProfWag]

As i said earlier accurately state what you require as proof and I will see what I can do - as I said I have access to over 30years of RV work both done privately and in the lab for the CIA/DIA , including many experiments with thousands of blind trials , most peer reviewed.

Daz

I don't want to get in between you and ciscop as far as proof goes, but you do say that most experiments have been peer reviewed. I would like to see a reference of a peer reviewed experiment as I don't believe there is one. Perhaps within the paranormal umbrella, but I'm not aware of these experiments in an actual peer-reviewed journal. Or, I guess what I'm really asking is, what do you consider "peer reviewed?"

[ciscop]

i think daz is confusing Peer with friends

yeah.. then on the same level
i have a peer reviewed test of some friends.. i mean.. peers that saw me levitating a cigarette
but i wont prove it
but you can trust me, it was a peer reviewed
and if you dont accept it, you are childish and being plain silly.

That Randi is going to be a million dollars poorer when they accept my previous peer reviewed test (and no further demostration) as a valid paranormal demonstration.

The drinks are on me when that happens

[really?]

This is the last and only document listed on the DIA site it's dated 1977. If such a valuable espionage tool why are there no further documents ?
http://www.dia.mil/publicaffairs/Foia/pa_warsaw.pdf

Site
http://www.dia.mil/search_results.html? ... mil%2F#694

The CIA has no documents https://www.cia.gov/

If remote viewing worked you wouldn't be talking about it, because you'd be breaking a secret classification level if you had one.

[ciscop]

personally
i think RV ¨works¨

since he is only connecting a bunch of words and then, a posteriori
trying to find the hits..
it is just retrofitting in its purest way

here is Derren Brown debunking Remote Viewing


there is a reason why CIA isnt doing it any more
and why Daz would never take a real test,
is just silly

[Craig Browning]

Oh yea! Let's take the word of a publicity seeking magician on this, we all know they are bon afide experts in everything

Sorry, Derren Brown is a Buzz Term now days just as James Randi was in the 70s & 80s... he's just one of the buzzards circling the yet filled grave, waiting for the old bastard to finally croak... then comes the real fun; everyone that thinks their worthy trying to take the helm as Atheism's newest evangelist within the magic community.

there is a reason why CIA isnt doing it any more

That you're aware of... from what I understand (and have some first hand knowledge of) they along with the UN, DEA and other such groups do have "trusted sources" of the psychic persuasion they will listen to. I've mentioned this before and even explained how they are used, why certain obfuscation tactics are employed to conceal said facts, etc.

There is a reason why such organizations have Secret, Top Secret, Need to Know, etc. when it comes to classified practices.

and why Daz would never take a real test

So you're suggesting that a hoop designed by you and perhaps a few members of this forum is a "real test"?

Again, we find that the ego and arrogance of the supposedly intellectual reveals the fact that they are never satisfied with any of the answers until the test subject (guinea pig) jumps through another set of hoops created by themselves... all based on the faux belief that their personal contrivance (test) is the beat all approach to it all.


As I've said... as I've echoed... there isn't anything in heaven or hell that will ever satisfy a cynic's point of view, nor anything that will sway those of ardent belief. So why do we continue to proceed with these masturbative antics? Where's the intelligence in such things?

Hey, but that's just plain silly, isn't it?

[Nostradamus]

Again, we find that the ego and arrogance of the supposedly intellectual reveals the fact that they are never satisfied with any of the answers until the test subject (guinea pig) jumps through another set of hoops created by themselves... all based on the faux belief that their personal contrivance (test) is the beat all approach to it all.

Craig, daz has said in this very forum that the protocol he uses is not testable. He claims it is usable, but not testable. The discussion here is a simple test, not a use of the protocol. The two are quite are different.

[ciscop]

enought with that craig.. please, is just silly your "ego tactic"
it doesnt has to do anything with ego
is not like that
im simply not dumb enought like some here
to just accept any paranormal claim
are you?
if i told you i become invisible at night
would you believe without further prove? would you?


and your conspiracy theories are just plainly dumb, but all right believe whatever you want