Daz - Remote Viewing Test

[ciscop]

poc poc poc poc poc poc!!!

[Craig Browning]

That's what you look like with your clothes off?

No wonder you get bitter and sarcastic

Please ciscop, keep the day job and don't rely on hustling or working in porn movies as a source of income

[Nostradamus]

From a previous post http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=995&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20#p11349

Daz stated the following:

Yore right for science test/show this works then is is acceptable. For operational use no its no needed.

He was replying to my statement that what he does, is not acceptable way to do testing that verifies his "design".

All I have ever seen is that he uses his "design", which makes verification not possible.

The title of this forum begins with "The Scientific Committee ...". So why should the readers of this forum accept the claims by Daz of this working, when Daz himself states that what he does is not acceptable for a scientific test to show this works?

To scoff off tests that would be simple as not blinded, and boring, and not a level playing field, and goats, and whatever is beginning to sound more and more like the professor.

[ciscop]

:shock: That's what you look like with your clothes off?

No wonder you get bitter and sarcastic

Please ciscop, keep the day job and don't rely on hustling or working in porn movies as a source of income

im never bitter
im just sarcastic because i love to laugh at stupidness


now, im off to rest
what a weekend.. 5 gigs in 2 days..
im done!

[ProfWag]

If that's Daz' feelings on the subject, then that is fine with me as well. No disappointment here, just further frustration that continues and will probably continue until the day I die.
What I believe, however, is that if I had some sort of ability that would advance humanity in ways unimaginable at this point in time, I would be yelling from the rooftops that my abilities are real and wanting to prove it to anyone who would listen. If I wasn't willing to do that, then I believe my feelings deep down would be that I was unsure if what I did was "paranormal."
Since I don't claim to have paranormal abilities, however, I really don't know how I would act, but I do think I would be willing to spend a few minutes of my time focusing in on an object, regardless of what's inside, if it would promote my ability. I'll check out Daz' suggested link however, just to show I can be a good sport.

[ciscop]

If that's Daz' feelings on the subject, then that is fine with me as well. No disappointment here, just further frustration that continues and will probably continue until the day I die.
What I believe, however, is that if I had some sort of ability that would advance humanity in ways unimaginable at this point in time, I would be yelling from the rooftops that my abilities are real and wanting to prove it to anyone who would listen. If I wasn't willing to do that, then I believe my feelings deep down would be that I was unsure if what I did was "paranormal."
Since I don't claim to have paranormal abilities, however, I really don't know how I would act, but I do think I would be willing to spend a few minutes of my time focusing in on an object, regardless of what's inside, if it would promote my ability. I'll check out Daz' suggested link however, just to show I can be a good sport.

as always you said the things in the most respectful manner
im on the same boat althought i do behave in a different manner.

im just tired of nonsense
and love to expose this kind of people
everybody thinks they are special, but they dont want to share it
they just want to talk about it and critice people that dont believe in their stupidnatural.. i mean supernatural powers
is just boring

[ProfWag]

Let's just say I use the backspace and delete keys on my keyboard quite often as I'll go back and read what I said and realize that my point may not be well taken.
One of these days though, when it's least expected, I'm going to just blurt out in profanity I haven't used since basic training what I think of something. I think, when Ninja's having a bad day, that it cheers her up to get to hit the "ban" button...

[NinjaPuppy]

No problem! I hit it last week and banned Azreal. I'm good. But thanks for the offer!

Not to mention that that Mabusguy has been skipping around Montreal IPs like a mofo. He's been posting his garbage almost nightly. Sooner or later that little dirt bag is going to run out of hotels and business centers to use. It's too bad that just about the entire population of Montreal has gone down with him. I've tracked him along a bus route that has about 30 or 40 different possibilities. During Christmas he spammed us from the burbs. I guess he was staying with friends or relatives. Whatta guy! Such dedication but he needs medication.

[ciscop]

so now!?!?
whats up daz
i guess he is not logging in anymore
run remote viewer run!
what´s up you cant project your astral soul, your mind, your ¨whatever¨ to stalk ninjapuppy and see what she put in a box?
what a shame, what if NP promess to wear something sexy while you are there??

common daz

[ProfWag]

No problem! I hit it last week and banned Azreal. I'm good. But thanks for the offer!

Not to mention that that Mabusguy has been skipping around Montreal IPs like a mofo. He's been posting his garbage almost nightly. Sooner or later that little dirt bag is going to run out of hotels and business centers to use. It's too bad that just about the entire population of Montreal has gone down with him. I've tracked him along a bus route that has about 30 or 40 different possibilities. During Christmas he spammed us from the burbs. I guess he was staying with friends or relatives. Whatta guy! Such dedication but he needs medication.

You go girl!!!! Get 'em!

[Craig Browning]

im just tired of nonsense and love to expose this kind of people everybody thinks they are special, but they dont want to share it they just want to talk about it and critice people that dont believe in their stupidnatural.. i mean supernatural powers is just boring

As I stated previously, why do you think your hoop is one that every psychic you meet must jump through when they've already jumped through a dozen other hoops that sustain their claims? In the case of Daz, he's offered a significant amount of "proof" (compared to most that make such claims) but you're wanting to bust his chops rather than accept the existing verdicts.

The other thing you need to digest (and I say this to those thinking themselves Psychic as well)... it is impossible for anything to be "super-natural" in the sense you are applying it in that nothing can exist outside of what nature and natural law permits. Every single "gift" tied to so-called Psychics hosts a very natural, down to earth, explanation... I know that this is the pov of the pseudo-skeptic but their perspective isn't exactly "clear" when it comes to what I'm saying...

Believers and Skeptics alike look at the idea of being Psychic as being something magickle, paranormal, mystical, etc. We tend to confuse the idea of Premonition and Divination by superimposing those disciplines onto the idea of Prophecy, which isn't one in the same (even according to the majority of occultists and teachers of metaphysics). Because of this misrepresentation in our minds, we tend to reject the simple and subtle... the "deeper truths" that have been known by the genuine "masters" for eons. But to understand this, you have to understand how "the mysteries" were deliberately layered and how students were slowly guided toward the ultimate truth... the esoteric or "hidden" realities behind magick, psychic prowess, etc.

It all sounds very boogiemanish, eh?

Those hidden secrets are, for the most part, what science has brought to the surface and the very things most "skeptics" lean on. But this is where the big problem crops up; the fact that the "believers" keep clinging on to the illusion -- the surface "exoteric" idea as to what such things are rather than their truth. This is something I'm actively attempting to change within the "shut-eye" community in that it is seriously detrimental to what it is they claim to be striving towards... in other words, it's time to at least come into the latter 20th century with one's thinking and let go of the middle-age era fantasies.

As I've said before, the show PSI thing is genuine but people refuse to see it for what it is and that includes accepting that the magic remains even after the trick has been explained; it's the presentation that makes it magical and enchanting, not the method

[NinjaPuppy]

Craig - Thank you for saying all of this. You have saved me time in another thread.

[NinjaPuppy]

I will repeat this here... The grade school antics need to stop.

Ciscop your comments are out of line and are nothing but nasty. I thought that you were serious when you put up this topic but I see that it was nothing more than for your personal entertainment. CUT IT OUT!

[ciscop]

wait a second
i wanted daz to show us his powers
but yeah, i knew on the back of my mind that he will chicken out
since thats what paranormalist usually do
they back out when somebody challenge their claims

Scescop challenge him WAY back.. like a year ago to prove his powers
and hegot the same lame excuse.. I HAVE NO TIME.

so, draw your conclusions

if you wanna believe him go ahead
i just know he is a guy that runs from challenges and thinks he can do something CIA reserched and for obvious reasons it closed the program (because it doesnt work)

[ProfWag]

As I stated previously, why do you think your hoop is one that every psychic you meet must jump through when they've already jumped through a dozen other hoops that sustain their claims?

Craig, could you clarify the second half of this sentence for me please?
Wag